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Bug#727708: init system coupling etc.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote:

> > > I am not so sure it's there. The current version runs without systemd
> > > but doesn't support everything

> > Based on what?  There is only one new interface in logind between v204 and
> > v208, an 'org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.GetUserByPID' method.  Are you
> > telling me that this is a critical feature for desktops, that they won't run
> > correctly without?

> Nono, that's not what I meant, sorry for being imprecise. Logind calls
> out to systemd for shutting down. -shim now supports some of that, but
> the last time I tried logind without systemd but just -shim didn't work
> fully yet?

systemd-shim+logind is working fine in Ubuntu - and shutdown is pretty basic
functionality, that's expected to work.  I have recently seen some reports
(via IRC) that logind-based logout is not working from GNOME in unstable,
even when running systemd as PID1.  So there may be some bugs here, but I
have yet to receive any bug reports on the systemd-shim package pointing to
a problem with systemd-shim vs. systemd compatibility.

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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