Bug#727708: init system coupling etc.

To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, 727708@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
Subject: Bug#727708: init system coupling etc.
From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:59:34 +0100
Message-id: <20140214155934.GR4910@awork2.anarazel.de>
Reply-to: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, 727708@bugs.debian.org
In-reply-to: <21246.14922.187282.667622@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
References: <21243.32848.338268.802311@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <52FC8E53.8020101@iwakd.de> <87y51erv8h.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <1392369156.26492.317.camel@dsp0698014> <21246.7964.438896.80714__2012.83612191236$1392385895$gmane$org@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <87bny9kddj.fsf@deep-thought.43-1.org> <21246.14922.187282.667622@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

On 2014-02-14 15:46:18 +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Ansgar Burchardt writes ("Bug#727708: init system coupling etc."):
> > Don't you mean "drop GNOME, KDE and others"? It's not only GNOME that
> > plans to depend on logind...
> 
> logind is a red herring because AIUI we already have a technical
> solution to that.  The problem is other things that might be in the
> pipeline.

I am not so sure it's there. The current version runs without systemd
but doesn't support everything and more up2date versions don't run at
all. There's promise of more work in that direction, but that might be
influenced by Ubuntu seemingly also switching in the not too far away
future: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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