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Bug#727708: Thoughts on Init System Debate

On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 08:41:32PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> With all that said, I think all of these considerations give me a slight
> preference for systemd over upstart, though I believe that whatever the
> committee decides on will be a great improvement over venerable SysV.
> 3: Frankly, I don't want to support more than one set of init files; if
> the other architectures are to be release architectures, they really
> should get whatever the CTTE decides is the default init system ported
> to them, and the maintainers of that init system in Debian should accept
> patches to do so, even if it means that the default init system is less
> functional on those architectures than it would otherwise be. [Even
> without cgroups, it'll be superior to sysv, after all.]

Note that everyone (including systemd upstream [1]) agrees that it is 
impossible to port systemd to non-Linux kernels. And if anyone would 
(against all odds) actually succeed in doing such a port, then systemd 
upstream would not accept patches.[2] [3]

The CTTE might decide "Systemd should be the only init system in Debian",
but that would clearly imply that Debian will drop all non-Linux ports.


[1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00447.html
[2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-May/msg00456.html
[3] I know both emails are from 2011, but this thread is the only one
    I recall to provide an (incomplete) list of potentially Linux-only
    features used by systemd. From all I've read Lennart's opinions haven't
    changed since then - may someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.


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        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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