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Bug#727708: Init system resolution open questions

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:

> AFAICT we are all agreed that:

> * Applications which aren't part of the init system must not require a
>   particular init to be pid 1.  (So in particular a desktop
>   environment may not require a particular pid 1.)

I still have concerns about this.

This position seems to be predicated on the assumption that applications
will be able to depend on a working logind for jessie, and that a working
logind will be provided for systems using sysvinit.  This apparently works
today with systemd-shim but will stop working with post-205 systemd.

I want to understand whether setting this requirement means that we're
intending to require that jessie ship with systemd 204, or, if not, what
level of certainty we have that post-205 logind will work with sysvinit
for jessie.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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