Hi Russ, On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:23:06AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > > Ian Jackson writes: > >> So I would appreciate it if you (and by "you" I mean each side of the > >> argument) would make sure that your page represents the best case you > >> can put forward. > > This seems to have come along very well in the past few days. > > We now have five camps with pages with substantial content: > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/multiple > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/openrc > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/sysvinit > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart > > Obviously people will need some time to further flesh this out and > > particularly to write rebuttals (or incorporate points into their main > > text which amount to rebuttals). > > If you're in one of these camps you'll probably want to subscribe to > > the pages of the others, so you can follow what they're doing and make > > sure to respond appropriately. > > How long do people think finalising this is going to take ? There are > > some potential problems with setting a hard deadline in advance but > > we're hoping to deal with this matter fairly soon now. > We've now gotten confirmation from the maintainers of the systemd position > statement that they consider their statement basically finished. I think > those are the only position statement maintainers we've heard from. > What is the current status of the other position statements from the > perspective of their maintainers? Do people have a feel for when they'll > consider their positions finalized, at least pending Technical Committee > feedback and questions? > > Perhaps it would be good if the camp leader(s) for each camp would > > reply with a summary of: > > - the status of their own main arguments: are you mostly done, > > or do you expect to add more substantial points > > - the status of their rebuttals: subject of course, to any future > > changes by the other camps, how close are you to having what > > you consider a good answer to the other camps' points ? > I think this would still be a good idea. At this point I'm satisfied with <https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart>, at least as a starting point for further discussion with the TC. I'm sure the systemd folks and I could go back and forth interminably polishing our rhetoric, but I'd rather turn our attention to actual questions that the other members of the TC find relevant. ;) Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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