Bug#727708: init system question before the technical committee
- To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
- Cc: 727708@bugs.debian.org, Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@debian.org>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>, Steven Chamberlain <steven@pyro.eu.org>, Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>, Alexander Vershilov <qnikst@gentoo.org>, Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
- Subject: Bug#727708: init system question before the technical committee
- From: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
- Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 10:23:06 -0800
- Message-id: <[🔎] 87y54wyv3p.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu>
- Reply-to: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>, 727708@bugs.debian.org
- In-reply-to: <21106.28847.418961.841111@chiark.greenend.org.uk> (Ian Jackson's message of "Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:01:03 +0000")
- References: <20131028003813.GC8764@virgil.dodds.net> <21102.21226.938593.484047@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <21106.28847.418961.841111@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Ian Jackson writes:
>> So I would appreciate it if you (and by "you" I mean each side of the
>> argument) would make sure that your page represents the best case you
>> can put forward.
> This seems to have come along very well in the past few days.
> We now have five camps with pages with substantial content:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/multiple
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/openrc
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/sysvinit
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/upstart
> Obviously people will need some time to further flesh this out and
> particularly to write rebuttals (or incorporate points into their main
> text which amount to rebuttals).
> If you're in one of these camps you'll probably want to subscribe to
> the pages of the others, so you can follow what they're doing and make
> sure to respond appropriately.
> How long do people think finalising this is going to take ? There are
> some potential problems with setting a hard deadline in advance but
> we're hoping to deal with this matter fairly soon now.
We've now gotten confirmation from the maintainers of the systemd position
statement that they consider their statement basically finished. I think
those are the only position statement maintainers we've heard from.
What is the current status of the other position statements from the
perspective of their maintainers? Do people have a feel for when they'll
consider their positions finalized, at least pending Technical Committee
feedback and questions?
> Perhaps it would be good if the camp leader(s) for each camp would
> reply with a summary of:
> - the status of their own main arguments: are you mostly done,
> or do you expect to add more substantial points
> - the status of their rebuttals: subject of course, to any future
> changes by the other camps, how close are you to having what
> you consider a good answer to the other camps' points ?
I think this would still be a good idea.
--
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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