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Re: Bug#681834: network-manager, gnome, Recommends vs Depends

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 06:15:34PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>   - GNOME upstream have declared Network Manager to be an integral
>     part of GNOME and the Debian maintainer is insisting on following
>     their lead in gnome-core.  The maintainer is essentially asserting
>     that the very purpose of the gnome-core metapackage is to reflect
>     precisely what upstream have decreed, and that we should not
>     deviate.  I disagree; I think (a) we should feel free to deviate
>     from upstream if doing so is better for our users and (b) anyway
>     setting one of the dependencies to Recommends is not a significant
>     deviation.

I think you need to substantiate the (a). Next up will then be the removal of
pulseaudio from Depends because it handles your sound system on top of and
somewhat instead of ALSA. And of course it places itself in /etc/xdg/autostart.
And I wouldn't be surprised to see people arguing that pulseaudio is the devil
and must not be required, given that dmix allows you to use multiple audio apps
at the same time.[1]

(I don't have anything against pulseaudio, I'm just saying that I don't see you
drawing the line yet.)

Kind regards
Philipp Kern

[1] I'm aware of the flaws of dmix. But I simply don't know how pulse handles
the multiuser case nowadays, apart from freeing the sound device when it's not
in use…

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