Bug#573745: Things have changed significantly for the better
[Steve Langasek, 2010-07-06]
> I think the python
> packages ought to have more than two comaintainers, and there are any number
> of folks with no Ubuntu affiliation who might join the team - you yourself
> would be a prime candidate, IMHO.
I don't have enough skills to handle other architectures, I don't have
enough motivation right now to and first of all: I do not have enough
time (join DPMT / PAPT and start checking/sponsoring packages and I
will start working on interpreter packages instead)
> But I won't dignify the absurd claims that Ubuntu
> or Canonical somehow *want* Ubuntu to be ahead of Debian on python.
I don't know if you want it or not, the problem is you're doing it and
later forcing us to use Ubuntu solutions and thus slowing us down (it
doesn't matter if these solutions are broken or not, I already listed
examples for both on debian-python mailing list). I don't care if you
discuss Debian Python stuff at UDS, but I do want to have it discussed
also on debian-python mailing list *before* upload to Debian. You can do
whatever you want if you will use it in Ubuntu only, although I feel sad
that my work is wasted and packages synced from Debian without a single
change, do not work in Ubuntu.
> > * Give python-defaults, python3-defaults, python-central and
> > setuptools/distribute packages to a team chosen by CTTE and accepted by
> > bug submitters. If they will choose to include me, the first thing I
> > will propose to do after releasing Squeeze will be a RM request of
> > python-central with all packages converted to dh_python2 or
> > python-support if it will make sense² (I'd prefer to convert all
> > python-support based packages to dh_python2 as well)
>
> How do you define "bug submitters" for this purpose?
#573745's one (Luca, Josselin, Sandro and Bernd)
> Why do you believe it necessary to change the maintainership of the
> python-central package to accomplish a transition to dh_python2?
all other attempts to merge -support and -central failed and
transition to dh_python2 is not (yet?) accepted by Debian Python
community
> It was my
> understanding that Matthias is already on board with deprecating
> python-central in favor of dh_python2, in which case there doesn't seem to
> be any reason for the TC to intervene.
if I will not be part of python-defaults' team, dh_python2 will
die most probably (I hope at least dh_python3 will survive in
python3-defaults)
> Furthermore, it would be contrary to
> Debian best practices to remove python-central from the archive while it
> still had reverse-dependencies in the archive;
"with all packages converted to dh_python2 or python-support"
> The python-defaults and python3-defaults packages already have a maintainer
> team, and you're a member. Is this inadequate for these packages? In what
> way? If the current maintenance team for these packages is wrong, who do
> *you*, as a current co-maintainer, think should be on that team?
let CTTE and bug submitters decide if they're happy with us or not (if
they will decide to remove Matthias from Maintainer, it will not mean
Scott and I will stop working with him, it will only mean we will be the
only ones to blame)
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