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Re: Call for Votes (getaddrinfo)



Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Call for Votes (getaddrinfo)"):
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 07:51:37PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > This time can we _please_ try to get quorum ?  You must send in your
> > vote within 7 days of me sending this message, for it to count, ie by
> > approximately 2007-12-06 19:50 +0000.
> 
> Well, not much leeway here it seems.  FWIW, my vote on this resolution was
> going to be:

The 7-day limit was not imposed by me and is not discretionary.
It is specified in the Constitution, section 6.3(1):
   ... The voting period lasts for up to one week, or
       until the outcome is no longer in doubt. ...

If there had been a timezone change the question of exactly what `one
week' might mean might be relevant but in this case I can't see how it
could mean anything other than 7 24-hour days.

My call for votes was timestamped by my own system and then by
Debian's listprocessing system with
   Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:51:37 +0000
   Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:52:32 +0000 (UTC)

No-one (including you) challenged this interpretation during the
intervening week (or indeed on previous occasions).  No-one complained
that my message had been delayed in transit or that there was some
error with the timestamps, and you don't allege such a problem here.

Your message was timestamped by your own system with
   Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 15:37:18 -0800
with is the same as 2007-12-06 23:37:18 +0000, and the timestamps in
the other headers agree.

So I conclude that your message arrived a shade under 3h45m after the
constitutionally specified deadline.

I even clearly stated the deadline in my call for votes, precisely to
try to avoid anyone who wanted to vote failing do so within the
specified period.  I don't see how my warning could have been more
clear and explicit (given that of course the precise datestamp on my
message exists only after I have sent it).  And of course it's
irrelevant whether or not I warned anyone of this deadline; it was not
my responsibility to do so and the deadline does not depend on whether
or not I announced it in advance, and nor do any of us have the power
to waive it.

I think 7 days is plenty of leeway.  You sent plenty of messages
yourself in the intervening week and there were reminders in the form
of votes from other TC members as well as of course the informal
messages of various kinds.

If you thought you might want to change your mind you even had the
option of sending in a vote for FD right away and changing your vote
later.

Ian.



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