Cedilla removed from sid, users complain
- Subject: Cedilla removed from sid, users complain
- From: luca@pca.it (Luca Capello)
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:45:07 +0100
- Message-id: <[🔎] 878vy8robg.fsf@gismo.pca.it>
- In-reply-to: <8762tck75s.fsf@poker.hands.com> (Philip Hands's message of "Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:25:19 +0000")
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Hi there!
Juliusz, it is better to point your question to the *maintainer* of the
package, not to debian-devel@ (which is not a mandatory mailing list for
all the maintainers). Adding the Debian Common Lisp team to the loop.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:25:19 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> It seems that there are no outstanding bugs against the package, so
> there should be no problem with using the existing package, and I see
> that 0.6 is still the current version so I presume that it's not a fast
> moving package, so should really only need uploads as bugs are reported,
> or once every release to keep up with relevant policy changes.
The package is bug-free, yes, and I would say it is even less that "a
fast moving package", the latest upstream release being the one we had
in main (plus some patches from one year and a half ago).
NB, I have not checked the full darcs repositories, but only the NEWS
file on it.
I am not saying that the package is not anymore interesting because
upstream seems dead. And if you read the email I linked from #610903,
you can see that I have checked for alternatives, missing paps, however:
Message-ID: <87fwt921lt.fsf at gismo.pca.it>
URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-common-lisp-devel/2011-January/002522.html>
> I'd imagine that Luca would be willing to hold your hand for the first
> upload if that helps (assuming that he's still up to speed on the
> package). Luca?
No problem in re-doing an upload, but this is the *last* action I will
do for this package. Really, I do not even remember why I started
maintaining it, I think it was when we switched to team maintenance in
the Debian Common Lisp team. And given that I have abandoned all my
Common Lisp work, I do not see the point in keeping myself in the
Uploaders: field...
FYI, I do not use cedilla.
Another possibility would be to have cedilla added to clbuild
<http://common-lisp.net/project/clbuild/>, which is officially supported
in the common-lisp-controller package since version 7.0 (clc-build
wrapper), and in some way also before starting from version 6.19.
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:12:01 +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
>> There is always the option of either recruiting one of those
>> disappointed users to maintain the package, or doing it yourself.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion -- but I'm already spending all of my
> proverbial Copious Free Time on upstream work.
Well, to be clear I am already out of time, not only for my Debian work.
>> It seems a shame to lose a bug-free package when you apparently have
>> users that are going to miss it.
>
> I think so too. But I cannot be doing everything.
FWIW, me neither.
I thought about keeping cedilla and actually orphaning it, as you can
read in one of my emails (the one linked from #610903):
Message-ID: <87fwt921lt.fsf at gismo.pca.it>
URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-common-lisp-devel/2011-January/002522.html>
But please note that after having waited one month and a half, no one
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