Re: Contacting cloud team for hosting blends.debian.net [elbrus@debian.org: Re: Any sponsoring for a VM possible (Was: Rackspace ending free hosting for blends.debian.net)]

[Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de>]

Hello,

On 25.01.20 10:21, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 06:18:20AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 08:35:30PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> > > Yes, in general this is something we can and should do.  We haven't done
> > > this yet in the new SPI-owned AWS accounts, which are the right ones to
> > > use here (assuming we decide to use AWS; obviously there are other
> > > options), so there are some administrative and technical details to work
> > > out.
> > >
> > > How soon do you need this?
> > Michael was asking for prolongation but the old contract he was caring
> > for was ending 24 days ago (without notice to him). :-(
> I was also checking DigitalOcean[1] for sponsorship conditions.  I admit
> I do not really want to be bound to twitter about the hosting
> sponsorship regularly (I do not even have a twitter account) nor do I
> want to include spnsorship information into the staging code for
> blends.debian.org.  I have not yet checked other options but I guess it
> would be similar.
>
> So if you think it would be possible in SPI-owned AWS accounts in
> principle could you give any estimation how long it would last to setup
> this?  I can confirm that world would not stop turning round if
> blends.debian.net would go offline for some weeks - but well, there are
> some things that depend from its day to day operation.
>
> [1] do.co/oss-sponsorship

No exact idea if this is something for the debian-cloud, which is more
about getting Debian best possibly used in cloud environments than it is
about running Debian-associated services in the cloud. But I sense that
Debian would benefit from some sort of policy via which such such
resources should be assigned without too much overhead - I mean, compare
the cumulative time Andreas now spent on writing these emails and so
many DDs having read them with the costs for $2.50/month for a
decent-enough VM on, say, hetzner.com.

All these secondary web pages that orchestrate the DDs are tremendously
important. And IMHO these don't update frequently enough (as in daily
with a day's delay because these may depend on another daily updated
service). I am not exactly sure about how the situation can be helped.
If CPU time is an issue then please fix that, but I don't think so, even
though it likely helps. Triggered updates? Would be nice, but should we
then not have some protocol between services? And is that something for
debian-cloud again to think about because it being closest to
distributing processess in cloud environments?

Cheers,

Steffen