On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 03:31:50PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 05:12:38AM +0100, Anders Jackson a écrit : > > Software that is packed and installed in Debian should, and must, work. > > I think that you are conflating issues. Ultimately, you are > challenging the semantics of Depends and Recommends. > > If one installs Debian using the Debian Installer, where > "Recommended" dependencies are installed by default, everything > works. The only conflation I see is the timedatectl program bundled with systemd that has very strict dependencies which aren't met by the package it is bundled in. You're suggesting Recommends is okay only because bundling provides the excuse to generalize the package requirements (although that is obviously debatable). If timedatectl was its own package, there's no way it would get away with Recommends. Do you have any examples of other common commands that are completely broken if installed via debootstrap instead of the Debian Installer? There are a great many commands included in coreutils or util-linux, none of which (to my knowledge) have this issue. But maybe there's something I haven't noticed which you could point out, to help us understand that this isn't actually a new problem?
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