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Re: zh_TW.Big vs zh_TW.big5 vs zh_TW



> > Owing to the fact that I do not know how to configure window manager such as gnome in the
> > shell mode,
> > i.e. use startx to start X-window
> >
>
> You might help us to advertise this: Debian system install all
> the documents under /usr/share/doc/ for each package it installed.
> There are several directory for gnome-*. You might want to see
> the gnome-core directory.
>
> I have not used gnome on my desktop, so... :(

Thank for your information, I have found the ways from the debian policy, in which the default window manager must link in the /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager and the Gnome program is gnome-session.

Further with the help of cpanel, I found that it can help us to config the x-window mangaer by written three files in your $HOME. These three files are .xsession, .xsession-errors and .gtkrc.zh_TW.big5. .xession is used to configure your own window manager. It can also used to
set the locale.

Now with the file .gtkrc.zh_TW.big5 in my $HOME, I can start the X-window+Gnome with chinese character shown.  However the commond the start X-window must be modified as below:

startx -- -deferglyphs 16 but not "startx -deferglyphs 16"

Further with the comparison with CLE 0.9p1, I discovered that the gdm can also display chinese characters in the login mode
by setting the DefaultLocale=chinese-traditional in file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf

note: chinese-traditional must match the word which modified in /etc/locale-alias

>
>
> >
> > I can startup a English Style Netscape communicator by press the the earth like icon in
> > the menu bar which can browse big-5, gb, english web page correctly.
> >
> > I can also startup a Big-5 Chinese Style Netscape communicator by choose [Debian menus]
> > -> [Apps] -> [Net] -> [Netscape] -> [Netscape(zh_TW.Big5)] which can browse big-5, gb,
> > english web page correctly.
> >
>
> If you take a look at /usr/lib/menu/netscape-zh-resource-475, you will
> see that the environment for zh_TW.Big5 is set explicitly in that directory.
> And /usr/bin/X11/crxvt also explicitly set you environment to zh_TW.Big5.
> As a result, you can see a zh_TW.Big5 both in crxvt and netscape even
> if your overall environment is not set to zh_TW.Big5. beside, gdm won't
> read your .bash_profile and .bashrc. It should read your .login file though.
> You might need to check how gdm set your environment. For xdm, it
> read ~/.xsession. You can just set LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES
>
> > I guess my gnome has already been configured use chinese but can not find the chinese
> > resources although there are many gnome related *.mo files are stored in
> > /usr/share/locale/zh_TW.Big5/LC_MESSAGES .
> >
> If the environment is set properly, gnome will find them. One possible
> reason is that as you know, the LC_COLLATE is not in the default zh_TW.Big5
> locale. If LC_COLLATE is not there, LC_ALL and LANG will not work
> properly. gnome might just set your LC_ALL or LANG to zh_TW.Big5 when
> you set it up at language chooser. You might want to copy the LC_COLLATE
> from GBK's directory /usr/share/locale/zh_CN.GBK/ and see if that
> works.

Sorry for not mention in previous, my config is still used libc6 2.1.3-10 in which LC_COLLATE does not missed, after solve the problem, I will upgrade it to libc6 2.1.3-13 with backup the LC_COLLATE file.

>
>
> > One of the reason support my guess is that,
> > Debian's Netscape Communicator package has its own chinese locale since version 4.75, and
> > the X-window has configured as Chinese-big5, hence the communicator can use the
> > corresponding chinese resources to display the chinese character menu bar.
> >
>
> If your environment is all properly set to big5, the one at the taskbar
> should also start netscape with big5 menu.

Yes, I got it.

At last, I find that the key point for my original question is that the file rc.gtk.zh_TW.Big5 in /etc/gtk.
Although I have linked it as ln -sf /etc/gtk/rc.gtk.zh_TW.Big5 /etc/gtk/rc.gtk.zh_TW.big5, the Gnome cannot find it.

Do you have any suggestion?

Thank your very much for your help!!

Alex Wan from Hong Kong



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