Re: CD mirrors

[Mattias Wadenstein <maswan@acc.umu.se>]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Richard Atterer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> please have a look at the new <http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/>, I hope
> the information is now closer to the truth than before. :-7
>
> Mattias, is the page correct from your POV?

Yeah, it looks alright.

> Some further notes:
>
> * The rsync URL for the beta/unstable/testing images does not have a "pub/"
> in it, unlike the HTTP/FTP URLs. Is it worth it to make this uniform or
> should we just leave it like that?

I've added pub/ if you want that, both are available.

One note though, the the full isos aren't in cdimage-testing, but in 
pub/weekly/ right now. This because cdimage-testing is a plain mirror from 
gluck with nothing added.

Manty, etc: Should we look at getting a consensus on what isos we would 
like published and then put them into the cdimage-testing directory? With 
the goal of having cdimage-testing (or some other directory) turn into 
what is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for debian-cd/ at release 
time?

> * I'm boldly declaring on the page that DVD images have names ending in
> -dvd.iso and dual-layer images have names ending in -dldvd.iso!

Yay!

> * For consistency, should CD images' names end in -cd.iso? It might make it
> easier for mirror admins to in/exclude CD images from mirroring.

I think this would be a good idea.

> * I don't remember clearly what the plans WRT full DVD images were: Will
> there be a full set of images for all arches? Probably not... full set for
> i386? One DVD image for i386? What about dual-layer? %-| (IOW: Mattias, how
> much disk space will be available by release time?;)
> <http://www.debian.org/CD/mirroring/#names> is probably wrong ATM.

The space available would be 100-120 gigs, this both on cdimage.d.o and on 
the primary push-triggered mirrors (at least, this is what I asked of 
them when they signed up). I think we agreed that dual-layer isos would be 
overkill, since those are primarily of interest for vendors, not 
individual users. But that a full i386 dvd set would be very good to 
carry. As would iso sets.

> * Could /export/ftp/pub/cdimage-testing on farbror be made writable by
> deb-cd? I'd like to install a cron job which runs "du" over the CD image
> directories, so that prospective mirror admins can always get up-to-date
> info on the actual size requirements. I was thinking of publishing the "du"
> output as /export/ftp/pub/cdimage-testing/cdmirror-sizes.txt...

I'll take a look at it.

> On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:51:57PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > > Can you provide a list of directory paths for the various image
> > > variants? IOW, if full images of single/dual-layer DVDs, netinst,
> > > business-card etc images are made available, where on the server will
> > > they appear, and where the corresponding .jigdo/.template files, if any?
> >
> > Not yet, and I need some input on this. How should this be organized so
> > the users can find the correct jigdo and iso? My suggestion so far has
> > been to put them all into the same arch directory and make the name
> > reflect what kind of iso/jigdo it is. Any other suggestions/comments?
>
> IMHO, this is fine! The rsync --include/--exclude options on the page now
> also describe how to in/exclude by filename.

That looks good to me.

> The directory listing will look confusing especially to new Debian users
> because e.g. DVD and CD .jigdo files will be all mixed up. However, I've
> thought for a while that just linking to Apache dir listings is not a good
> idea considering the growing number of download possibilities. *sigh*, yet
> another little project to come up with an intuitive set of pages... :-)

Well, right now we at least have a split on download method 
(jigdo/iso/torrent) and architecture. Imagine if we put everything in a 
single directory.. ;)

/Mattias Wadenstein