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Re: Debian CDs for woody release

On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 14:59, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 02:23:50PM +0100, Philip Hands écrivait:

> > Also, there have been the suggestions about adding a few newbie friendly
> > packages to those included on the first couple of CDs, preferably CD#1,
> > presumably by adding them to tasks (as mentioned a few times by Mantas
> > Kriauciunas).  I think this should be doable without to much greif, and
> > would be a good thing, but I'm not sure who's responsibility it might be
> > to decide to add things like that to tasks, or whatever.  Is this
> > something that simply going to be delayed till 3.0_rev1, or is there any
> > opportunity to fix this before release?
> You're the one who builds the image, so it's up to you to modify the
> tasks file if you feel that it's required.

I wasn't talking about the debian-cd tasks file, I was talking about the
tasks as seen by tasksel.

There seems little point forcing newbie friendly packages onto CD#1 if
they are never going to install them because tasksel is not going to
offer them.

If there's some way of overriding the existing Tasks in packages, at CD
build time, then I'm willing to give it a try, but I've had a look, and
it seems that it's down to the boot-floppies and the original packagers,
which means that we're well past the time when they could be changed for
this release.

Sorry for the delay in this reply --- annoying customers wanting me to
do what they pay me for.  I guess I get to pay the mortgage as a result,
so shouldn't complain.  ;-)

> However I'm sure that there's
> no perfect solution ... if you push more things on CD1, something else
> will go out and someone else will be unhappy.

If people complain about the loss of penguineyes-gnome, and the like, I
think I'll be able to live with that.  There are a few such packages
filling gaps on CD#1, so it should be possible to improve things a

> As I understand it, all
> the packages for all the tasks already take more than one CD so that I
> wonder how we can do better for CD1.

Well, the gap at the end of CD#1 is too small to take any of the tasks
that end up on CD#2, but that doesn't mean that CD#1 is actually full at
that point, so it gets filled with random (popularity inspired?)
packages after that AFAICT.

Cheers, Phil.
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