[ i haven't really be following this discussion... ] On the other hand, GCC3 is now a part of the mainline build stuff for NetBSD's own release, and I believe the intent is to release 2.0 with GCC 3.mumble as the primary compiler. But don't take that as gospel... GCC 3.3.x is going to be the only compiler shipped with netbsd 2.0. infact, i will be deleting GCC 2.x soon :-) .mrg.