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Re: Naming questions, to the BSD list only



Okay, one more time. Hrrrf. This one wasn't (technically) proposed
earlier, but does make sense. Hopefully this is the last update.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 08:44:00AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> It has been pointed out that there are at least three other categories
> which it is meaningful to include; therefore, please consider this the
> revised ballot. My apologies to anyone who has to re-submit.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 08:34:53PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > So. While things aren't by any means decided yet, I would like to propose
> > a straw poll, solely for those who're actually doing work on the BSD ports
> > (honor system, for anyone else reading the list, but if you actually read
> > the list, you probably have a reasonable argument for inclusion :) as to
> > what naming convention we should use.
> > 
> > I haven't found any documents on how to use the voting system for a straw
> > poll, if it's even possible, but since the number of votes should be fairly
> > small, I'll just tally them by hand.
> > 
> > The proposed naming schemes of which I am aware are as follows:
> > 
> > 1) Christian demonology
> > 2) Discworld gods
> > 3) Tolkien Valar/Maiar
> > 4) Greek mythology
> > 5) Famous physicists
>   6) K,KL prefix notation ('Debian GNU/KLNetBSD(i386)')
>   7) k,kl suffix notation ('Debian GNU/NetBSDkl(i386)')
>   8) Userland/libc/kernel ('Debian GNU/NetBSD/NetBSD(i386)')
    9) k,kl prefix notation ('Debian GNU/klNetBSD(i386)')
    
> > Ashort set of pros and cons, at least as I see them, follows:
> > 
> > 1) Pros - daemon, demon, close enough; extensive catalog of names
> >    Cons - at least one BSD developer protest, likely to cause political
> >           fallout at some point, BSD world tries hard to avoid 'demon'
> >           associations
> > 
> > 2) Pros - Not likely to offend anyone, geeky reference
> >    Cons - Not many names for a given letter, may (but probably won't) have
> >           hassles from Pratchett's lawyers.
> > 
> > 3) Pros - Lots of names, Valar/Maiar are a very direct analogue to daemons,
> >           unlikely to offend anyone, uber-geeky reference
> >    Cons - Many aren't US/ASCII, not widely known, Tolkien's estate might
> >           cause hassles, uber-geeky reference
> > 
> > 4) Pros - Lots and LOTS of names, Greek
> >    Cons - Many names are trademarked in a (possibly) relevant field of
> >           endeavour, not really all that associated with daemons
> > 
> > 5) Pros - More than ample names for nearly any letter, unlikely to object,
> >           most of them are dead and have no estates to object anyway, well
> >           known outside geek circles (well, relative to any other option so
> >           far, anyway)
> >    Cons - Only linkage to daemons is uber-geeky
> 
>   6) Pros - Keeps the kernel in the name
>      Cons - Looks ugly as sin, may not be enough for some trademark holders
> 
>   7) Pros - Also keeps the kernel in the name
>      Cons - Still looks ugly as sin, still may not be enough for some
>             trademark holders
> 
>   8) Pros - Even more specific
>      Cons - Doesn't solve the trademark issue at all

    9) Pros - Uhm. See #6 and #7.
       Cons - Uhm. See #6 and #7.

> Note that category 8 may be disqualified completely, but I'm including it
> so that nobody can argue it didn't have exposure.
> 
> > For the straw vote, there are six categories (the 5 above, plus 'further,
> > discussion'). Rank them in order of preference, with lower numbers having
> > a higher preference. You may have ties or unranked entries. All unranked
> > entries are considered equally, as the least preferred. To object to an
> > entry, rank it *behind* 'Further Discussion'; for the purposes of this
> > vote, a win by 'further discussion' implies that no option is sufficiently
> > appealing, and we should continue to try to find other options.
> 
> It's now nine categories, but the general guidance remains the same.
> 
> > Feel free to include a rationale section, if you wish; all rationale
> > comments will be included in the summary. If you wish your name attached
> > to the rationale, please include a statement to that effect; rationale
> > sections without such a statement will be presented without attribution.
> > 
> > The ballots with be manually processed, so as long as I can read it, it's
> > valid. But I'd really appreciate it if you'd stick to the following form:
> > 
> > -=-=- cut here -=-=-
> > 
> > [   ] Christian demonology
> > [   ] Discworld gods
> > [   ] Tolkien Valar/Maiar
> > [   ] Greek mythology
> > [   ] Famous physicists
>   [   ] K,KL prefix
    [   ] k,kl prefix
>   [   ] k,kl suffix
>   [   ] Userland/libc/kernel triple
> > [   ] Further discussion
> > 
> > -=-=- cut here -=-=-
> > 
> > Polls open now (roughly 2003-12-19 03:30 +0000), and will close at
> > 2003-12-22 03:30 +0000 (or roughly 3 days hence).
> 
> This hasn't changed, but I'll try to make sure everyone who sent a ballot
> already has the chance to revise that ballot before the close of polls.
> -- 
> Joel Baker <fenton@debian.org>                                        ,''`.
> Debian GNU/NetBSD(i386) porter                                       : :' :
>                                                                      `. `'
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Joel Baker <fenton@debian.org>                                        ,''`.
Debian GNU/NetBSD(i386) porter                                       : :' :
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