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Re: Is it _really_ dead?



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> 
> Probably wise -- Debian is not generally speedy.  And dpkg is
> undergoing some revamping at the moment.
>  
> > I'm all for helping out with a common set of tools to manage
> > packages between BSD and Debian which is why I was among the
> > first handful or so of the people to subscribe to this list.
> > I also did some initial work on porting dpkg to FreeBSD and
> > made that available as a FreeBSD port to some people on this
> > list.  It was far from complete but at least it was a start.
> > 
> 
> This is great! 
> 
> > Replacing the BSD userland with a GNU one from Debian or more
> > precisely having just a BSD kernel with a Debian userland on
> > the other hand is not something that interests me.  
> [ ... snip ... ]
> 
> I guess what I'm confused about is what exactly all you BSD folks
> want.  This is the second or third message to this list that says
> (my paraphrase):  "We think some BSD/Debian cross-pollenation would
> be good.  But we don't want any GNU userland tools, and we don't
> want Dpkg because we like the Ports system, and we don't want
> apt because we have the pkg-tools.  Oh, and by the way I'm not
> interested in helping out with a system that would be a BSD kernel
> with GNU user space."
> 
> So what exactly *is* present in Debian that would be at all 
> helpful?
> 

	Let me throw out a wild question to the group---and I believe 
	that none of us is looking for, has time for any sort of 
	flamefest; hopefully we've grown beyond that.  What is wrong
	with the idea of a BSD kernel + libc and GNU + glibc.  _And_
	(at least initially) porting two userland /bin trees?  We 
	already share much in common, of course.


	Everything in /etc could take the best of both but would 
	favor the SysV-style admin tools.  (Admittedly, for me, it 
	would be relearning what I used years ago ('86-'95), but 
	for the sake of having to remember only one method of sysadmin,
	hey--

	gary


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   Gary D. Kline         kline@tao.thought.org          Public service Unix



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