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The subject is starting to lose meaning

It seems to me that you have forgotten that I was a Debian user for many
moons.  I used hamm when it just became stable all the way until a few
months after potato made the leap to glibc2.1

I'm quite aware of what the "Debian way" is, but I doubt that many
of you know what the "FreeBSD way" is.

And I last ran debian three weeks ago to see if it was much different
with FreeBSD experience under my belt, I upgraded to 2.2.6 or something
as well as apt-get upgrade to potato.

As for that install two packages at once thing, carefully written scripts
or a user with clue can prevent that.  It'd be sad for that to be the
biggest issue why you'd like to fork the OS; if you'd like to add
tools to pkg_delete to make the user have to force an installation over
an older version, go right ahead and save us all a lot of work and headache.


<jeffsh@erols.com> wrote:

This can best be answered by installing Debian/GNU Linux on a
spare partition.  Get Debian 2.1 on cdrom, the _older_ the
pressing is, the better (current is 2.1r4).  Then learn to use the
apt tools.  Update to 2.1r4 over the Internet using apt/dselect
apt method.  Update from the debian security site too.

You will be running a 2.0.x Linux kernel.  Update the kernel, by
getting the latest 2.0.x kernel source package from your nearest
Debian mirror site.  Learn to use kernel-package to compile and
install your new kernel.

Next - upgrade to the unstable (potato) release.  Use dselect,
start with just upgrading to glibc2.1, next get the latest kernel
2.2.x source package and install it, just like you did for 2.0.x.
Time for a dist-upgrade.  At your leisure, upgrade your new potato
system, do this weekly, or whenever.

Of course, you have modified many configuration files in /etc so
that your system works good for you.  See how the various package
upgrades effect your modified confifuration files.

Some time in the year 2000, Debian will release a new system,
2.2r1, to the world.  Congratulations, you have already installed
this system!

Now, I will quote from "The Complete FreeBSD", 2nd edition, by
Greg Lehey,

    Another problem with pkg_delete is that it might delete files
    of the same name which have been replaced by newer packages.


    Oops!  We tried to delete the old version, but we deleted at
    least part of the new version.  Now we need to install it

Under Debian, you cannot install two different versions of the
same package - unless the packages have been specifically setup to
allow this.  Most packages do not, and I have never had a problem
with this.  Those packages that do allow different versions
include emacs, xemacs, perl.

I emphasize that you have been upgrading both userland and base
system packages on your new Debian/GNU Linux (potato) system.  Apt
method in dselect does it all for you!  And you haven't had to
compile anything.

You must try it, and live with it for a while, I cannot really
explain it to you.

Jeff Sheinberg  <jeffsh@erols.com>

Note: there are several useful acronym lists / search systems on
the web, e.g.
--from a posting by Ray "J.H.M. Dassen" <jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl> 

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