Re: installation-guide: simplify RAM/disk space requirements
Hi,
Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> wrote (Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:06:11 +0200):
> Holger Wansing, le ven. 04 août 2023 21:03:38 +0200, a ecrit:
> > So I propose to change chapter 3 values like
> >
> > Install Type RAM (minimum) RAM (recommended) Hard Drive
> > - No desktop 256 megabytes 512 megabytes 4 gigabytes
> > + No desktop 512 megabytes 1 gigabytes 4 gigabytes
> > With Desktop 1 gigabytes 2 gigabytes 10 gigabytes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would propose to change chapter 2
> > like
> >
> > - You must have at least 780MB of memory and 1160MB of hard disk space to
> > - perform a normal installation."
> > + You must have at least 512MB of memory and 4GB of hard disk space to
> > + perform an installation."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Comments?
>
> That looks good to me indeed.
Now looking in the doc source, I see that the "780MB" value from above is
architecture-dependent too.
While 780MB seems realistic for amd64 to me, I wonder if the other values can
be up-to-date:
amd64:minimum_memory=780
arm64:minimum_memory=260
armel:minimum_memory=80
armhf:minimum_memory=190
i386:minimum_memory=485
mips:minimum_memory=85
mips64el:minimum_memory=345
mipsel:minimum_memory=170
ppc64el:minimum_memory=64
s390x:minimum_memory=44
In the most eye-catching case of s390x, my proposal would mean, to change
the value in the guide from 44 to 512MB !
That leads to the question, if the new situation after my changing would be
wrong, or if the doc was wrong in the past?
And, if a generic value for all archs is realistic and makes sense at all?
My current plan would boil down to the attached patch.
Holger
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diff --git a/build/entities/common.ent b/build/entities/common.ent
index 1e58745e1..94c20298b 100644
--- a/build/entities/common.ent
+++ b/build/entities/common.ent
@@ -66,8 +66,12 @@
<!ENTITY BTN-CANCEL "<guibutton>Cancel</guibutton>">
<!ENTITY BTN-GOBACK "<guibutton>Go Back</guibutton>">
-<!-- notation used for 'megabytes' -->
+<!-- notation used for 'megabytes' and 'gigabytes' -->
<!ENTITY notation-megabytes "MB">
+<!ENTITY notation-gigabytes "GB">
+
+<!-- recommended RAM size (generic for all archs) -->
+<!ENTITY minimum-ram-generic "512¬ation-megabytes;">
<!-- minimum hard disk size for base system -->
<!-- As measured just before reboot (i.e. before the cleanup script drops
@@ -75,7 +79,7 @@
cleanup, plus minimal ~150MB work space included.
Also update the value in debian-installer/build/boot/x86/f2.txt
-->
-<!ENTITY minimum-fs-size "1160¬ation-megabytes;">
+<!ENTITY minimum-fs-size "4¬ation-gigabytes;">
<!--
Size of install as used in appendix/files.xml; all values based on amd64.
diff --git a/en/hardware/memory-disk-requirements.xml b/en/hardware/memory-disk-requirements.xml
index 10f074738..581e00fff 100644
--- a/en/hardware/memory-disk-requirements.xml
+++ b/en/hardware/memory-disk-requirements.xml
@@ -6,9 +6,9 @@
<para>
-You must have at least &minimum-memory; of memory and &minimum-fs-size;
-of hard disk space to perform a normal installation. Note that these are
-fairly minimal numbers. For more realistic figures, see
+You should have at least &minimum-ram-generic; of memory and &minimum-fs-size;
+of hard disk space to perform an installation. Note that these are
+fairly rough numbers. For more realistic figures, see
<xref linkend="minimum-hardware-reqts"/>.
</para><para>
diff --git a/en/preparing/minimum-hardware-reqts.xml b/en/preparing/minimum-hardware-reqts.xml
index eb36bb9ce..81f11f40e 100644
--- a/en/preparing/minimum-hardware-reqts.xml
+++ b/en/preparing/minimum-hardware-reqts.xml
@@ -45,8 +45,8 @@ Any OldWorld or NewWorld PowerPC can serve well as a desktop system.
<tbody>
<row>
<entry>No desktop</entry>
- <entry>256 megabytes</entry>
<entry>512 megabytes</entry>
+ <entry>1 gigabytes</entry>
<entry>4 gigabytes</entry>
</row><row arch="not-s390">
<entry>With Desktop</entry>
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