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Bug#603444: marked as done (debian-policy: clarifications in appendix b.4 of debian install guide)

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regarding debian-policy: clarifications in appendix b.4 of debian install guide
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Package: debian-policy
Severity: normal

Some explanations in appendix b.4 of the Debian installation guide are unclear to me, and might therefore be unclear to others.

1. Section b.4.3 states:

"Use the following settings if you wish to make use of the network-console
# component for remote installation over SSH. This only makes sense if you
# intend to perform the remainder of the installation manually."

Where can one find more info on this?
At what point can the user take manual control over the installation process when using this method?
If a user doesn't have a monitor attached to the computer, how would one know when it is possible to take manual control of the installation process?

Depending on the answer to the question on where one can find more info, answers to the 2 questions following that one may not be necessary.


2. Section b.4.4 reads:

"#d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
d-i mirror/country string manual
d-i mirror/http/hostname string http.us.debian.org
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian"

Even though the first line says mirror/protocol string ftp, some users may find it confusing that all other values begin with mirror/http/... I think it would be a good idea to state something like:

"If you will use an ftp mirror, fill mirror/http/hostname, and mirror/http/directory,  with information for the ftp mirror you're going to use."


3. Section b.4.6 reads:

"If the system has free space you can choose to only partition that space.
#d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free"

How will this space be partitioned, as one big partition, or several smaller partitions?
If several smaller partitions, then how is the size and mount point of each partition determined?
What file system will be used on partitions created in this way?
Will this free space also have a swap partition created, or not?
The phrase

"Alternatively, you can specify a disk to partition."

leads me to understand that the discussion about recipes below doesn't apply to automatically partitioning the biggest free space, thus my confusion.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.6
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.27.21
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

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Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> wrote:
> 1. Section b.4.3 states:
> 
> "Use the following settings if you wish to make use of the network-console
> # component for remote installation over SSH. This only makes sense if you
> # intend to perform the remainder of the installation manually."
> 
> Where can one find more info on this?
> At what point can the user take manual control over the installation process when using this method?
> If a user doesn't have a monitor attached to the computer, how would one know when it is possible to take manual control of the installation process?

I have added a hint, which points to 
https://d-i.debian.org/doc/installation-guide/en.amd64/ch06s03.html#network-console
as source for additional info.

> Depending on the answer to the question on where one can find more info, answers to the 2 questions following that one may not be necessary.
> 
> 
> 2. Section b.4.4 reads:
> 
> "#d-i mirror/protocol string ftp
> d-i mirror/country string manual
> d-i mirror/http/hostname string http.us.debian.org
> d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian"
> 
> Even though the first line says mirror/protocol string ftp, some users may find it confusing that all other values begin with mirror/http/... I think it would be a good idea to state something like:
> 
> "If you will use an ftp mirror, fill mirror/http/hostname, and mirror/http/directory,  with information for the ftp mirror you're going to use."

The first line setting protocol to ftp is commented out, so it's not actively
used. It shows a possible custom setting.
The used default value is http.
And this fits perfectly to the following /http/ lines :-)
I have added a clarification, to point out the default value.


> 3. Section b.4.6 reads:
> 
> "If the system has free space you can choose to only partition that space.
> #d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free"
> 
> How will this space be partitioned, as one big partition, or several smaller partitions?
> If several smaller partitions, then how is the size and mount point of each partition determined?
> What file system will be used on partitions created in this way?
> Will this free space also have a swap partition created, or not?
> The phrase
> 
> "Alternatively, you can specify a disk to partition."
> 
> leads me to understand that the discussion about recipes below doesn't apply to automatically partitioning the biggest free space, thus my confusion.

I should be understandable from the introduction at
https://d-i.debian.org/doc/installation-guide/en.amd64/apbs04.html#preseed-partman
that 
'd-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select biggest_free' 
or 
'd-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda'
or similar only point to space on one of your harddisks, which you want
to use for the Debian installation.

How it is used in detail, is defined further below, like: 
- which method (regular, lvm, crypto)
- which recipe (atomic, home, multi - or own recipes)
and further specs like filesystems or mountpoints.


Closing this bug.
Thanks for reporting - even if it needed 11 years to get this done :-(


Holger


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