Re: [AMD/ATI graphics] Missing firmware not declared / kernel modules not included in initrd
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:53:01PM +0100, Holger Wansing wrote:
> Hallo Karl-Heinz,
>
> no surprise, that the problem is still there, because nothing has been done
> against it yet :-((
>
> There has been a lot of discussion in some mailinglist on this topic, however
> there seems to be not much interest in the installer-team apparently, to do some
> changing (or maybe with other words: lack of manpower prevents the team from
> fixing this).
>
> I sent a proposal to debian-boot for this, but got no answer (neither positiv
> nor negativ) ...
>
The problem may be that you need to install firmware-amd-graphics which isn't
on the boot media. If you can boot into rescue mode / a text only mode by
moving to a different console (or by using ssh to log in from another machine)
install that package.
This is so for most modern cards from AMD. I hit this the other day
when upgrading a machine and replacing a graphics card.
If you do a text mode expert install - which I would recommend in the
event of graphics card problems as a fail-safe - then at the point at
which there is a prompt for additional firmware, you can insert it then.
If the machine is NOT booting using UEFI, then you may be on your own - as
some people have reported problems because cards expect UEFI to be present
in order to hook in to UEFI to boot.
Hope this helps,
Andy C.
>
> Holger
>
>
>
> Karl-Heinz Künzel <karl-heinz.kuenzel@web.de> wrote (Sun, 14 Feb 2021 12:27:46 +0100):
> > Am 01.01.21 um 21:49 schrieb Holger Wansing:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Karl-Heinz Künzel <karl-heinz.kuenzel@web.de> wrote:
> > >> Am 01.01.21 um 20:26 schrieb Holger Wansing:
> > >>> To complete your upgrade from Buster to Bullseye: did you now installed
> > >>> "firmware-misc-nonfree" (from non-free), to see, if it then works correctly
> > >>> with a Bullseye kernel, too?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Holger
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> No, but just did it. Booted 4.19, installed "firmware-misc-nonfree" and
> > >> rebooted with 5.9 and it is working.
> > >
> > > That's good.
> > >
> > >
> > >> But Holger, that is not the way, as I understand, it should work.
> > >>
> > >> I used 'debian-bullseye-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso' and firmware from
> > >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/current/
> > >> on second stick.
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> 'firmware-bullseye-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso' with no success.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The problem, as I understand, is with the alpha3 installer, but please
> > >> correct me, if I am wrong.
> > >
> > > You think so, because you can install Debian Buster without problems, right?
> > >
> > > But the reason, why the Bullseye installation fails, lies in the new kernel
> > > resp. the new graphics driver version. They enforce the firmware to be existing
> > > to make graphic output work.
> > > In the old 4.19 kernel this was a bit more relaxed (firmware not strictly
> > > required).
> > >
> > > The installer has a conceptional problem here:
> > > the installer detects, if firmware is needed, when a kernel module is loaded,
> > > and then you are asked to provide the firmware via an usb stick or similar.
> > >
> > > However the specific kernel modules for those modern graphic cards are not
> > > included in the installer environment. Because of that the installer is
> > > unable to detect, that you have hardware in your pc, which requires
> > > firmware files.
> > >
> > > That's what I pointed out in the mailinglist post under
> > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2020/12/msg00026.html
> > >
> > > So, with the concept we currently have in the installer, this is the expected
> > > behaviour at the moment ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Holger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Holger.
> >
> > Sorry for coming back to this issue again.
> >
> > Bullseye is now in software freeze and today I did another test
> > installation with a fresh [ISO] debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from here
> >
> > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/
> >
> > Same like before, grub and then a black screen.
> >
> > And my GeForce GT 1030 is not so unusual ....
> >
> > Any idea, when this will be fixed?
>
>
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