Re: [AMD/ATI graphics] Missing firmware not declared / kernel modules not included in initrd

[Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org>]

Hallo Karl-Heinz,

no surprise, that the problem is still there, because nothing has been done
against it yet :-((

There has been a lot of discussion in some mailinglist on this topic, however
there seems to be not much interest in the installer-team apparently, to do some
changing (or maybe with other words: lack of manpower prevents the team from 
fixing this).

I sent a proposal to debian-boot for this, but got no answer (neither positiv
nor negativ) ...


Holger



Karl-Heinz Künzel <karl-heinz.kuenzel@web.de> wrote (Sun, 14 Feb 2021 12:27:46 +0100):
> Am 01.01.21 um 21:49 schrieb Holger Wansing:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Karl-Heinz Künzel <karl-heinz.kuenzel@web.de> wrote:
> >> Am 01.01.21 um 20:26 schrieb Holger Wansing:
> >>> To complete your upgrade from Buster to Bullseye: did you now installed
> >>> "firmware-misc-nonfree" (from non-free), to see, if it then works correctly
> >>> with a Bullseye kernel, too?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Holger
> >>
> >>
> >> No, but just did it. Booted 4.19, installed "firmware-misc-nonfree" and
> >> rebooted with 5.9 and it is working.
> >
> > That's good.
> >
> >
> >> But Holger, that is not the way, as I understand, it should work.
> >>
> >> I used 'debian-bullseye-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso' and firmware from
> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/current/
> >> on second stick.
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> 'firmware-bullseye-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso' with no success.
> >>
> >>
> >> The problem, as I understand, is with the alpha3 installer, but please
> >> correct me, if I am wrong.
> >
> > You think so, because you can install Debian Buster without problems, right?
> >
> > But the reason, why the Bullseye installation fails, lies in the new kernel
> > resp. the new graphics driver version. They enforce the firmware to be existing
> > to make graphic output work.
> > In the old 4.19 kernel this was a bit more relaxed (firmware not strictly
> > required).
> >
> > The installer has a conceptional problem here:
> > the installer detects, if firmware is needed, when a kernel module is loaded,
> > and then you are asked to provide the firmware via an usb stick or similar.
> >
> > However the specific kernel modules for those modern graphic cards are not
> > included in the installer environment. Because of that the installer is
> > unable to detect, that you have hardware in your pc, which requires
> > firmware files.
> >
> > That's what I pointed out in the mailinglist post under
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2020/12/msg00026.html
> >
> > So, with the concept we currently have in the installer, this is the expected
> > behaviour at the moment ...
> >
> >
> > Holger
> >
> >
> >
> Hi Holger.
> 
> Sorry for coming back to this issue again.
> 
> Bullseye is now in software freeze and today I did another test
> installation with a fresh [ISO]	debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from here
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/
> 
> Same like before, grub and then a black screen.
> 
> And my GeForce GT 1030 is not so unusual ....
> 
> Any idea, when this will be fixed?


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