Hi, Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> (2020-03-27): > Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote: > > Since the very purpose of fonts-noto is large coverage and usage in > > embedded devices (e.g. stripping kerning values), I suspect that it > > may be beneficial to use also for other locales. > > > > Please do tell if there is interest in that, and how I can help > > there. > > I'm unsure, if switching completely to Google fonts (fonts-noto is a > Google project, right?) is what we want, thinking about monopolism... Right now, I have no strong opinion on this particular topic. > However, I did some tests, and I managed to get a netboot-gtk mini.iso image > built with only this font packages: > fonts-android-udeb (apparently needed for CJK languages) > fonts-noto-unhinted-udeb > > For my eyes, the result is: all languages are rendered, no TOFU signs > like the ones we had in the past, when fonts where missing. The fonts > are looking different than before, but not bad IMO (speaking for > English and my mother tongue German, I would say: it's 100% readable.) > We would need to validate the quality for all languages (with the help > of translators/users (preferably) or with screenshots old <-> new). > But apart from that, at the first look it seems not that bad! > > I have uploaded the resulting mini.iso (and the corresponding > gtk-common file from ..debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/) to GoFile, > try it at > https://gofile.io/?c=l59HTp > > > Note: > With the current setup, this leads to an image growth of 10MB (when I > compare the builds here on my laptop: 75MB for an original built > netboot-gtk image as it is now configured in GIT, and 85MB for an > image with only the two udebs mentioned above). > I assume this could be reduced, if unneeded fonts are skipped from the > used udeb though. Maybe we could even reduce the image size compared > to the original size, because of less overlapping glyphs (need to be > checked !). > > So, what's the opinion of the team: is there any interest to move to > fonts-noto? Besides the first topic you mentioned, and the idea of putting all our eggs in the same basket (possibly meaning less maintenance for us, and/or maybe more pressure on the maintainers of a newly-critical component), the big question is what users will think of the changes. I suppose the best way to approach this would be to ask e.g. translators for each language to compare the rendering before/after, and have them tell us what they think (maybe by setting up a poll). I suspect this might be a rather time consuming task… Cheers, -- Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/> D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
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