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Bug#861300: cdrom-detect: Please merge changes from Ubuntu



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 09:42:47AM +0200, Balint Reczey wrote:
> Please merge changes from the delta carried by Ubuntu:

For the record, this does not have my approval even though some of the
commits are in my name.  It would generally be polite to at least try to
ask people named as committers before you send patches attributed to
them (and also e.g. ask what email addresses they prefer to be used for
the patches you've generated in their name: I never use
colin.watson@canonical.com except in situations where it's been chosen
for me and I have no alternative).

> commit 44dc46c133fa5e87d27eeef4c936e44cb886602b
> Author: Balint Reczey <balint.reczey@canonical.com>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 21:07:42 2017 +0200
> 
>     Show Ubuntu name on Ubuntu
> 
>     Build depend on dpkg-dev (>= 1.15.1) and patch to do so.

This is thoroughly gross in a native package, and I don't think it
should be accepted.  Branding patches are annoying but basically a
necessary reality.

The only sensible way to avoid carrying these patches in downstream
distributions is to debrand altogether, i.e. not mention Debian in d-i
strings.  In some cases that's reasonable, but I don't think it can be
done everywhere.

(And no, db_subst isn't a solution in the general case: while it isn't a
problem in this specific case, in general, different proper names are
translated in various ways in different languages, may undergo
declension, etc.  My stock example of this is "a Debian image" vs. "an
Ubuntu image", but there's a wide range of complexity here.)

If I were putting the effort into figuring out how to merge this
properly rather than just forwarding patches directly, I'd work out a
rephrasing of the log messages that was more generic and didn't require
branding, and I'd generate the cdrom/suite template at build time in a
way that's reasonably easy to maintain (.in files or similar).
Committing a patch file like this is right out: not only are they highly
unconventional in native packages but in practice they're a pain to
maintain and tend to bitrot.

> commit 08cfa29937f3dfbe796cab4d7e05bf2dd8808f40
> Author: Colin Watson <colin.watson@canonical.com>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 20:08:41 2017 +0200
> 
>     Update translations for using hdparm
> 
>     Those changes should be done in d-i master po files

This should be disregarded and should not have been sent.  These are
translations I fetched from Launchpad, and they may have different
vocabulary standards etc.  d-i manages its own translations, and d-i
translators are unlikely to thank you for committing unchecked
translations to their languages.

If the underlying hdparm change were committed (but see below), then it
might make sense to send copies of the various translated strings to the
list as a courtesy so that translators could use them as a reference if
they wanted to, but not to commit them.

> commit 5f509c6af43f90f8800490ae87287d69678c5445
> Author: Colin Watson <colin.watson@canonical.com>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 20:02:14 2017 +0200
> 
>     Optionally set CD-ROM drive parameters with hdparm

I have mixed feelings about this.  It's a low-priority question,
probably of pretty limited use nowadays as apparently nobody ever
thought to enable it on amd64, and I suspect it's largely unused.  It
made some difference in 2004 but now it's 2017.  My inclination would be
to just drop this from Ubuntu, which would substantially reduce the size
of our delta.

> commit c061fc52c2b5ff1dc2f720df7dc795d0e0b121a9
> Author: Colin Watson <colin.watson@canonical.com>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 19:10:44 2017 +0200
> 
>     Extend device-scan delay to wait for usb-partition and mmc-partition
> 
> commit 2ea63bb2703436cfa7695fe27ce5042d1eaf67fd
> Author: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 19:08:40 2017 +0200
> 
>     Also check SD/MMC partitions ("list-devices mmc-partition")
> 
>     Closes: LP: #364604

These rely (in part in the case of c061fc52, and in its entirety in the
case of 2ea63bb2) on a change to debian-installer-utils, which you
haven't forwarded.

> commit 5414150bde29d7f1432ae91eeb62c5dad8e0e3a2
> Author: Colin Watson <colin.watson@canonical.com>
> Date:   Wed Apr 26 18:37:29 2017 +0200
> 
>     Copy /cdrom/.disk/info to /var/log/media-info
> 
>     in order that we get /var/log/installer/media-info on the installed
>     system; doing this in save-logs is too late because /cdrom is already
>     unmounted by that point.
> 
>     Closes: LP: #364649

This is probably vaguely reasonable.

-- 
Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@ubuntu.com]


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