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Bug#764982: Backports removed from sources.list ;-(



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On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 05:44:12PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I saw backports has been removed as default setting from sources.list in
> Jessie RC3. I am very disappointed by this last minute change, without
> much discussion so far I know. I did not know about this bug.

BR reopened for futher discussion.

from the changelog:

| Changes:
|  apt-setup (1:0.97) unstable; urgency=medium
|  .
|    * Stop enabling backports by default (Closes: #764982). Rationale:
|       - Packages in the base suite are preferred to the ones in the
|         backports suite so one needs to specifically ask for the version
|         from backports.
|       - That isn't true for packages which are only available in the
|         backports suite.
|      This means one could possibly install such packages without even
|      noticing they're not fetched from the base suite; and that seems
|      a dangerous default.


That "danger" is installing an old package.
That "danger" only occures when there is NO new package.

A "bigger danger", a bigger disadvantage,
is NOT getting the package installed.
(not getting a package installed that _is available_ in backports )

The "danger" is no danger, the "bigger danger" is.


> In my opinion it's very good when backports is default in sources.list.

Typical use cases for having backports enabled:

 * Package became available after the release ( this will happen more and more )
 * Package was too late for the freeze ( that has happend allready )


About the
|      This means one could possibly install such packages without even
|      noticing they're not fetched from the base suite; and that seems
|      a dangerous default.

There is much doubt in 'could possibly' and 'seems a dangerous default'

Please go beyond the doubt and install available packages.

And let us find out which packages are missing in the base suite.


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Leven en laten leven


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