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Re: Bug#760778: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#760778: xfce4-session: Please depend on gnome-orca



Le 08/09/2014 14:30, Michael Biebl a écrit :
I fail to see why a11y would be important enough to force it to Xfce
installations while not beeing important enough to force it to default
installations.
Right, we can probably add it to task-desktop instead. Joey?
I'm not sure if this is the right approach. Isn't there a risk that
alternative desktop environments (MATE, KDE, Cinnamon, LXDE,you name it)
use other components then gnome-orca to implement a11y?

There is not chance for this, given that gnome-orca is the only screen reader maintained. Given its quality and the few people to work on assistive technologies, there're project to extend at-spi (a11y bus), improve orca cross-desktop features, but no project to replace Orca.

For other assistive technologies, it's always a possible thing. But Debian could ship in a11y tasksel she current used software in a11y. For example, dasher is used today, Compiz is used for low-visual disable users, civikey used for keyboard.



Shouldn't the maintainers of those DEs be consulted if they are actually
comfortable with task-desktop pulling in parts of the GNOME stack?

Sure it'd be a good idea. Note however that the gnome stack needed for orca is not so big. The common libs and packages dependent of gnome is low, and orca devs intend to maintain and improve cross-desktop compatibility of Orca, so to let gnome stack dependency limited.


Imho it should be up to the individual desktop environments to pick the
components it deems the most appropriate.

Another thing is that in GNOME, a11y features can be enabled through a gconf-editor key. So without "enabling" by default, orca stcak could be installed and a shortcut could exist to enable a11y features if needed. It wouldn't imply so much packages. Another thing would be to export proper GTK modules.

Regards,

Michael



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