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Bug#758116: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel



On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 07:45:12AM +0200, Per Andersson wrote:
>>
>> I don't think this is a particularly good measure since the blends are
>> relatively unknown.
>
> I think it is not a measure for a sequence but rather a measure whether
> a Blend should be included or not.

Possibly, but the fact is that only three blends have more than zero installs.
Better then to have some criterion for inclusion, possibly as simple as
having a $BLEND-tasks package for tasksel.


>  For instance I missed
> multimedia-tasks in my list (for the simple reason that I have not seen
> any relevant commit since nearly one year).  But for sure multimedia is
> quite important for our users and perhaps the fact that there is a
> chance to prominently be shown in the installer might be a motivation
> for multimedia maintainers to review the tasks (both team members who
> previously commited to Git in CC).
>
>> >> $ curl -s 'http://popcon.debian.org/by_inst' | grep -e '-tasks '
>> >> 10053 education-tasks                  983   355   448   173     7 (Debian Edu Developers)
>> >> 10929 science-tasks                    830    76   660    58    36 (Debian Science Team)
>> >> 11000 junior-tasks                     818     0     0     0   818 (Debian Junior)
>> >> 15895 plasma-widget-smooth-tasks       370    71   285    14     0 (Salvo Rinaldi)
>> >> 17234 gis-tasks                        305     0     0     0   305 (Debian Gis Project)
>> >> 17279 med-tasks                        304    26   250    11    17 (Debian Med Packaging Team)
>> >> 21947 multimedia-tasks                 166     0     0     0   166 (Debian Multimedia Maintainers)
>> >> 32922 games-tasks                       57     0     0     0    57 (Debian Games Team)
>> >> 34392 debichem-tasks                    50     0     0     0    50 (Debichem Team)
>> >> 35076 ezgo-tasks                        47     0     0     0    47 (Debain Ezgo Packaging Team)
>> >> 41997 tine20-tasks                      27    13    11     1     2 (Not in sid)
>> >> 69244 site-tasks                         5     0     0     0     5 (Not in sid)
>> >> 93698 agenda-tasks                       1     1     0     0     0 (Not in sid)
>> >
>> > (column 3 is install count among active popcon users;  descending order)
>>
>> It would also only rate Science, Edu, and Med (in that order) which might be
>> good top candidates anyway, but other blends have zero (0) installations
>> among active popcon users. So in any case, some ordering except popcon
>> install count is necessary.
>
> I'd consider alphabetic ordering as sensible enough.  I would not
> (mis)use popcon stats as ordering criterion in this case.
>
>> I suppose questions regarding ordering can be: 1) What do we think Debian
>> users want to install? 2) Are there any blends in particular good shape?
>
> I think both criterions are not as objective as alphabetic order.  Think of
> our language selection menu?  Should we try to rank it according to the user
> base of a certain language or the translation status?  I think this gets a
> clear "no".

Very good point. I agree with this of course.


--
Per


> Kind regards
>
>          Andreas.
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