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Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default



On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:28:58AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that
> > the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most
> > kernel messages and systemd messages.
> 
> Note that the hiding of systemd messages is unintentional, and can make
> debugging a system that fails to boot challanging. #718038
> 
> I asked the systemd maintainers to not make it overload quiet to do
> that, but they don't want to, so if systemd continues being used in
> Debian (even if not as default), d-i will need to start adding
> systemd.show_status=1 to the kernel command line.

Following up on this thread: this has now been addressed in upstream
systemd as of 209:

"Boot-time status output is now enabled automatically after a short
timeout if boot does not progress, in order to give the user an
indication what she or he is waiting for."

That seems like exactly the right behavior: quiet by default, but noisy
if something goes wrong, where "taking too long" qualifies as something
going wrong.

- Josh Triplett


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