Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- console-setup
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:49:42AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
>
> if xkb-data is available then these keymaps can be generated at
> runtime by ckbcomp/setupcon (although I'm not sure ckbcomp-mini can do
> it; Anton?).
No, ckbcomp-mini can not do this and ckbcomp would require Perl and a
new udeb. However, in a X-based installation you don't need to
configure the console so maybe console-setup-pc-ekmap is not required?
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:22:54AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
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> Besides that it offers choices for keymaps that are not even available and
> AFAIK it does not detect headless systems that don't need any console
> setup.
AFAIK this doesn't happen.
> The extremely long selection lists make console-setup-udeb completely
> unusable with the text frontend.
Inconvenient as always with the long selection lists, but not unusable,
see #531646. However, I am not sure which extremely long selection
lists are you refering to. AFAIK there is only one long selection list
in c-s-udeb, in the typical situation this question won't be asked and
it is longer than the corresponding selection list of kbd-chooser only
because some layouts are not supported by kbd-chooser.
> The basic error in the design is the assumption that the same functionality
> is suitable for both installed systems (where users may want to tune there
> keyboard for their personal preferences and, most importantly, have the
> opportunity to try out different options and see their effect) and for the
> installer (where users only need a basic selection of the correct keymap
> with solid defaults based on country, language and keymap for everything
> else).
There is no such assumption. If the d-i team has enough man-power the
the udeb can be redesigned to ask entirely different questions.
Setupcon is there so only the debconf-dialog needs to be redesigned.
The current implementation is due to the realisation that this the only
way I can support partially the udeb. Any difference between the udeb
and the regular package would imply more work for the d-i team.
However, I'd like to point out that in the typical situation
console-setup-udeb would ask only one question with less choices than
kbd-chooser. More functionality does not necessarily mean less
convenience.
> I'm not going into further detail here. For that, please see the earlier
> thread Samuel already linked to.
I think a lot of things changed in console-setup since that thread.
Anton Zinoviev
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