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Re: Review of console-setup wrt D-I [very long]



Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:45:33 +0200, a écrit :
> On Sunday 28 June 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 13:00:19 +0200, a ?crit :
> > > BTW, I would expect there are people in NL using Dvorak, but it's not
> > > being offered as a choice there...
> >
> > Because xkb doesn't have that layout.
> 
> Do you mean that xkb has a _separate_ layout for "Netherlands - American 
> English"? That is... insane.

Err, no, it has an entry in the nl part that includes the american layout.

> In that case there really _should_ be a "Netherlands - Dvorak" layout as 
> well.

If someone could implement the dutch dvorak, sure. Remember that dvorak
is per-language. You can always use the english dvorak for Dutch, but
that's not efficient.

> What could possibly work is some ability to define cheap symlinks, but 
> duplicating entire layouts really is insane (IMHO).

xkb uses cheap symlinks. They just need to be defined. Talk with the
upstream bug report, really.

> > > > > 5) Dutch people very much *do* still type accented characters.
> > > >
> > > > ERrr, really? That's not what dutch people I've talked with told
> > > > me. Anyway, that's not the question at stake.
> > >
> > > See these pages from a Dutch on-line newspaper:
> > > http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/4270616/__Strengere_controle_op_pr
> > >ive-gebruik_zakenauto__.html?p=40,1
> > > http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/4270520/__Belgisch_pardon_voor_ill
> > >egalen__.html?p=40,2
> >
> > That's newspaper, not everyday writing.
> 
> So newspaper people are not allowed to use Debian?

Don't make me say what I didn't say. I actually don't know why you
raised that point at all.

> > > I'll believe you if people say they don't bother in informal emails
> > > or SMS, but ask them if they also don't bother when writing an
> > > application for a job...
> >
> > They told me rather for writing their PhD.
> 
> And that gets accepted? /me cries...

AGAIN, don't make me say what I didn't say, or ask for better wording. I
meant that they didn't care about accents before having to write their
PhD.

Samuel


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