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Re: Review of console-setup wrt D-I [very long]



Hello,

Frans Pop, le Sun 28 Jun 2009 09:09:20 +0200, a écrit :
> > http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21046
> > Could NL people comment on the bug?
> 
> Eh, I *am* an NL person...

I know.

> I thought I'd already made my comments clear and explained the Dutch
> situation.

I know the situation. What I'm talking about is this:

> 3) Both Dutch keymaps and American English keymaps are in use, but the
>    Dutch ones are a relatively small minority.
> 4) If one of the variants currently listed under "Netherlands" really
>    is the American English layout then that is absolutely not obvious.
>    I would *NEVER* have understood that from the current descriptions.

That's why it I prompted for choosing a correct naming for the upstream
bug report above.

> 2) "Origin" as question sucks majorly.

The problem is: how should things be called? kbd-chooser used to just
throw one list at the user. It used to not be so big, but that's not a
scalable solution, as there _are_ a lot of different keyboards. Maybe we
can clean some variants out (like all the dvorak variants which
double the number of variants), but that still leaves a long list.

Here, "Origin" means where you bought the keyboard, it is a quite clear
question, provided that there is a US variant listed in the different
layouts for countries which usually sell it.

Another way I had thought about would be to first show a list of all
the keyboards known to be used by the combination of country/language
given at the localechooser stage, for instance en_CA would just propose
the american layout while the fr_CA would just propose the canadian
layout.  And a choice like "not in this list", which brings to a second
list with all the keyboards known to be used in the country (i.e. the
"Origin" question is not asked, it just defaults to the localechooser
country). Again a "not in this list" choice would bring to a third list
with a list of layouts for all countries, but with a lot of variants
removed (e.g. legacy, dvorak). Eventually, a "not in this list" would
bring to a fourth list with really all the variants.

> 5) Dutch people very much *do* still type accented characters.

ERrr, really? That's not what dutch people I've talked with told
me. Anyway, that's not the question at stake.

Samuel


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