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Re: Bug#552576: live-installer: no-standards-version-field



On Sun, Nov 01 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 10:21:34AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > It has been deemed "too buggy to be in Debian" by the ftp team, who don't
>> > have the authority to make such determinations on their own.
>
>>         Doesn't the ftp team have authority over determining what goes
>>  into the archive?  I would have thought so, given that they bear the
>>  (legal) brunt of any fallout from mistakes made there.
>
> This bug is not about a legal issue.

        The bug is about the contents of the archive, and the ftp
 masters are a gating agency for that, as much as the release team is a
 gating agency for what gets into a release.

>> > Downgrading this bug; I have requested that the ftp team remove these
>> > overreaching archive checks that have no basis in Policy's
>> > requirements, and intend to follow up with a GR if necessary.
>
>>         I think this degrades the quality of implementation, and given
>>  that only three packages have this, it should be easy enough to fix.
>>  Less time would be spent fixing these issues than draging on a fight in
>>  a GR
>
> No, the damage to the project of letting the ftp team dictate Policy
> would be permanent.

        This is a reach; the ftp team has not changed policy. It just
 changed how I set the severity of the bug, this is  no different than
 the release team taking a violation of a MUST directive and downgrading
 the bug to less than serious. I'll be happy to stop letting either team
 set the policy levels without going through the policy process, but
 each team is responsible for aspects of Debian: the ftp team manages
 the archive, and decides what goes in there, the release team decides
 what goes into a release just like the installer folk decide what is or
 is not part of the default install,

        If you think we should all stop letting each team influence the
 other teams, Debian shall be poorer for that.

        manoj
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