Bug#452388: Back on "'standard system' is confusing" bug report

[Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>]

On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> My understanding of your point is that having this:
>
>  [ ] Desktop environment
>  [ ] Foo
>  [ ] Bar
>  [ ] Standard (non-graphical) environment
>
> ....does not make it clear that standard+desktop will end up in a GUI.

Correct.

> If we go back to "Standard environment", I guess it does not make
> things clearer enough.

The current short description is "Standard *system*", not "Standard 
environment". IMO Standard system is quite clear and also IMO
"environment" is very much a wrong term to use as packages with priority 
standard do not provide an "environment".

> Maybe things could be changed in "Desktop environment" to make it
> clear that this is graphical?

I guess changing it to "Graphical desktop environment" would be OK, but 
that does not make "Standard (non-graphical) environment" any less wrong!

If you want to replace "Standard system" with anything, then it should IMO 
be something like "Standard system utilities".

But even better would be to bring back some pre-sarge tasksel 
functionality that allows users to get an extended description of the 
tasks. Maybe the new help functionality in cdebconf could help there, but 
that would require either backporting it to debconf, or switching to 
cdebconf for installed systems.