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Bug#492331: installation-report: a few glitches



On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 06:29:24PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
> On Mon 28 Jul 2008, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:27:29PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
> > > - I chose expert install.  What's the difference with the normal install?
> > >   I didn't really detect anything that was particularly "expert"...
> > 
> > The difference between "expert" and "normal" installation is just a
> > matter of debconf priority.  Normal installations just show debconf
> > questions with priority high or critical.  Expert adds medium on top of
> > that.

Actually, expert is medium + low.

> Hmm, OK; perhaps that could be made a bit more clear, that this concerns
> the debconf questions? I expected "expert" to e.g. do manual
> partitioning be default instead of the guided partitioning; that sort of
> thing.

I don't have time to look up right now, but IIRC the difference is well
explained in the manual.  The boot menu is a bit tight on space to write
a longer explaination.

> > > - It was impossible to setup the disk layout I wanted:
> > >   - root on raid1 over 2 partitions
> > >   - ditto swap and /boot
> > >   - /var and other things on LVM on RAID1
> > > [???]
> > >   In short, most of the configuration entered was not remembered when
> > >   "writing to disk".
> > 
> > Known issues, see #391479, #391483, #393728, #398668, #475479.  Should
> > be fixed before Lenny.
> 
> OK, great. I thought I should mention it as when I last did this in
> april with the installer then (I believe I did use the testing
> installer) it all worked fine, and this was now a regression.

This issues have been here for quite some time, as far as I know.

> > > - The question "should root be allowed to login" should indicate that this
> > >   includes the console; I was thinking of ssh access.  BTW, I think that
> > >   offering to install an ssh server should also be asked, I expect that to
> > >   always be there... which is a pain if you install the server somewhere
> > >   and can't access it remotely.
> > 
> > Are you talking about the following template?
> > 
> >    Allow login as root?  If you choose not to allow root to log in, then
> >    a user account will be created and given the power to become root
> >    using the 'sudo' command.
> > 
> > I don't see how exacltly it could be improved, as it seems pretty
> > obvious to me that this is a system-wide setting.
> 
> It didn't occur to me that restricting root access to the console would
> be something useful... I guess it may be :-)  I expected this to concern
> the AllowRootLogin parameter for the ssh daemon.

When answered "no" to this question, d-i setup a system fully based on
sudo, without a root account.  Other distributions have such setups by
default (Ubuntu, for example).

> > > - The rescue boot also asks for hostname, domainname, country, etc.,
> > >   so I was a bit worried that I was simply doing an install again.
> > >   Why is that info necessary for a rescue console?
> > 
> > Location and language are asked because rescue mode is also localized
> > and having help messages in your native language is a desirable choice.
> > Same for keyboard layout.  The network configuration is done because
> > rescue mode might need to retrieve installer components only available
> > from a Debian mirror.
> > 
> > IIRC, these are the only questions currently asked.  Both newt and GTK+
> 
> No, I am sure that I was asked for hostname and domainname. That was
> when I started worrying...

hostname and domain name are part of the network configuration step.
I wonder if any rescue tasks make use of it…  If they don't maybe we
could preseed these values to their default when rescue mode is
activated.

Cheers,
-- 
Jérémy Bobbio                        .''`. 
lunar@debian.org                    : :Ⓐ  :  # apt-get install anarchism
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