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Bug#492331: installation-report: a few glitches



On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:27:29PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote:
> - I chose expert install.  What's the difference with the normal install?
>   I didn't really detect anything that was particularly "expert"...

The difference between "expert" and "normal" installation is just a
matter of debconf priority.  Normal installations just show debconf
questions with priority high or critical.  Expert adds medium on top of
that.

You should probably try a normal installation and see by yourself that
you'll probably need to answer less than 15 different questions to get a
fully operational desktop system.

> - After saying "no" to "do pc card services need to be started", I found it
>   unexpected that I was asked for memory ranges to exclude for PCMCIA;
>   I would have thought that the first question would mean I didn't need
>   anything with PCMCIA.

Known issue, see #479391.

> - It was impossible to setup the disk layout I wanted:
>   - root on raid1 over 2 partitions
>   - ditto swap and /boot
>   - /var and other things on LVM on RAID1
> […]
>   In short, most of the configuration entered was not remembered when
>   "writing to disk".

Known issues, see #391479, #391483, #393728, #398668, #475479.  Should
be fixed before Lenny.

> - The question "should root be allowed to login" should indicate that this
>   includes the console; I was thinking of ssh access.  BTW, I think that
>   offering to install an ssh server should also be asked, I expect that to
>   always be there... which is a pain if you install the server somewhere
>   and can't access it remotely.

Are you talking about the following template?

   Allow login as root?  If you choose not to allow root to log in, then
   a user account will be created and given the power to become root
   using the 'sudo' command.

I don't see how exacltly it could be improved, as it seems pretty
obvious to me that this is a system-wide setting.

An SSH server is already automatically installed when a system is
installed through an SSH connection (network-console).  For other means
of installation, one can install the openssh-server once the
installation process is done through the same way the installation was
made (through classic console or serial connection).

> - After selecting the tasks I was hoping to be dumped into aptitude to
>   fine-tune the packages; that didn't happen. Did I miss the choice for
>   aptitude somewhere? I did choose "expert install", so I expect to be
>   offered a bit more control...

AFAIK, you did not miss it.  People who want fine tuning of their
packages usually unselect every tasks and start installing packages with
a plain base system after the first reboot.

> - I didn't get any chance to enter anything for the mail config, hence this
>   is going out as from "paul@moordrecht.gps.nl" while it should be just
>   "paul@gps.nl" for this system. I need to fix /etc/mailname...
>   So please reply to paul@debian.org :-)

This used to be the case.  Being offline, I can't point you to the
discussion which lead to this decision, but laptop and desktop users
usually don't need to configure a full mail daemon.

"dpkg-reconfigure exim4" can also be done after the first reboot.

> - After installation cron in the log that /etc/environment doesn't exist,
>   which it doesn't.
> 
> - The rescue boot also asks for hostname, domainname, country, etc.,
>   so I was a bit worried that I was simply doing an install again.
>   Why is that info necessary for a rescue console?

Location and language are asked because rescue mode is also localized
and having help messages in your native language is a desirable choice.
Same for keyboard layout.  The network configuration is done because
rescue mode might need to retrieve installer components only available
from a Debian mirror.

IIRC, these are the only questions currently asked.  Both newt and GTK+
frontend displays a label with "Rescue mode" on top of the screen.
Should another message be added in your opinion?


I am leaving this installation report to eventually discuss a little bit
more on those issue, but most of them are already known.

Cheers,
-- 
Jérémy Bobbio                        .''`. 
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