Bug#451380: tasksel-data: Please stop installing acpi-support and hibernate (in the laptop/desktop task)

[Per Olofsson <pelle@dsv.su.se>]

Joey Hess wrote:
> Per Olofsson wrote:
>> So perhaps we should simply standardise on pm-utils. According to the Ubuntu
>> wiki page, acpi-support still needs to be around to send key events (for
>> IBM/Lenovo laptops which sends key events through ACPI, I presume). What we can
>> do then is to replace hibernate with pm-utils in the laptop task. What does
>> everyone think?
> 
> I don't buy the argument that hibernate causes confusion. None of this
> gnome/kde/hal/pm-utils hibernation stuff will work if the laptop task is
> installed w/o a desktop, will it?

pm-utils works without a desktop. At least it does for me. It doesn't get the
quirk database from hal though, but uses s2ram's built-in database.

> And what about XFCE? (It's possible to
> run pm-hibernate at the shell, but you can't pass all the quirk
> information to it that hal does, so doing so is basically useless.)

Does pm-hibernate need any quirks? AFAIK, only suspend-to-ram needs quirks as
the BIOS is not run when resuming. When hibernating to disk, the BIOS gets run
at resume time and reinitializes the video mode.

Regarding pm-suspend, you can still run it without the quirk options, in which
case it uses s2ram's built-in quirk database. This is comparable to the
hibernate package, I think.

> pm-utils was not ready to replace acpi-support last time I looked at it.
> acpi-support does a lot of stuff that it doesn't.

I didn't suggest replacing acpi-support. At least not the event handling part of it.

> Also, I was underimpressed at the quality of its code. It globbed files
> in the current directory, and is a #!/bin/bash script (ugh!).

I can't find any globbing of files in the current directory, but it still uses
#!/bin/bash.

I'm not particularly happy about the storing of quirks in hal part either. But I
do think it's a good thing if we can get a distro-standard way of
resuming/hibernating.

-- 
Pelle