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Re: Requesting new udebs (was: Bug#430023: please add gnu-fdisk-udeb and gnu-cfdisk-udeb)



On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 02:23:55AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 13 July 2007 01:48, Frans Pop wrote:
> > I was quite surprised to see the two new udebs from your source package
> > gnu-fdisk appear. Mainly because there has not been any discussion by
> > Robert about adding them with the rest of the D-I team and the D-I
> > release managers in particular.
> 
> Let me make this clear once and for all: there should be NO requests filed 
> for adding new udebs to existing Debian packages without discussing it 
> first on the debian-boot mailing list (which also means that only asking 
> on IRC is not enough).
> 
> This also goes for udebs that are not intended to be used in Debian 
> Installer itself, but are e.g. for debian-edu or live CD or similar.
> 
> The only exception is if a D-I porter needs an *architecture specific* 
> udeb, but even then at least announcing it on the list is very much 
> appreciated.
> 
> The main reasons for this are:
> - the size of installation images should not be increased without
>   discussion
> - every new udeb may need to be excluded in debian-cd
> - migration for all udebs needs to be consciously managed (which mostly
>   falls to the D-I release manager)
> - because of the previous point, having a udeb is not always enjoyable
>   for maintainers of regular packages because their packages may get
>   blocked from transitioning to testing; we should therefore not have
>   unused or trivial udebs
> 
> Remember, and this was recently affirmed by the Technical Committee, that 
> the debian-installer section of the repository is "owned" by the D-I 
> team.
> 
> Adding new udebs is a fairly major change. It seems only reasonable that 
> people inform/consult their colleagues in the team before requesting 
> them.
> 
> We are of course work willing to work with anybody who wants to extend the 
> installer (and history shows that we do), but only if it is done in the 
> proper spirit of collaboration, and springing new udebs on the team is 
> _not_ a good example of proper collaboration.

Ok, but please let's not make a big fuss of this.  The udebs were just added
to the archive, not to D-I.  And I requested it out of ignorance, not malice
(and Julien accepted my request in the same situation).

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