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Bug#399636: g3 imac: installation with the gtk-mini.iso



Package: installation-reports

Boot method: gtk-mini.iso
Image version: 
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc1/images/powerpc/gtk-miniiso/mini.iso

Date: 2006-11-20

Machine: imac g3 oldworld
Processor: 740/750 PPC, 233mhz
Memory: 96 mb
Partitions: 

Output of lspci -nn and lspci -vnn:

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Motorola MPC106 [Grackle] [1057:0002] (rev 40)
00:10.0 Unknown class [ff00]: Apple Computer Inc. Paddington Mac I/O 
[106b:0017]
00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC 
215IIC [Mach64 GT IIC] [1002:4756] (rev 3a)
00:14.0 USB Controller [0c03]: OPTi Inc. 82C861 [1045:c861] (rev 10)
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Motorola MPC106 [Grackle] [1057:0002] (rev 40)
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0

00:10.0 Unknown class [ff00]: Apple Computer Inc. Paddington Mac I/O 
[106b:0017]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
        Memory at 80800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]

00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC 
215IIC [Mach64 GT IIC] [1002:4756] (rev 3a) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 22
        Memory at 81000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        I/O ports at fe000c00 [size=256]
        Memory at 80881000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 1

00:14.0 USB Controller [0c03]: OPTi Inc. 82C861 [1045:c861] (rev 10) (prog-if 
10 [OHCI])
        Subsystem: OPTi Inc. 82C861 [1045:c861]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 28
        Memory at 80880000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [o] my first burn of the mini.iso didn't boot at all, 
but I blame that on a faulty blank-cd
Detect network card:    [o]
Configure network:      [o]
Detect CD:              [o]
Load installer modules: [o]
Detect hard drives:     [o]
Partition hard drives:  [EO] see below
Install base system:    [o]
Clock/timezone setup:   [E] the clock is off by 85 min. running "apt-get 
install ntpdate ; ntpdate" didn't help: "no servers could be reached" - but 
here is no outgoing firewall... 0.debian.pool.ntp.org closes connection via 
tcp on port ntp
User/password setup:    [o]
Install tasks:          [o]
Install boot loader:    [o]
Overall install:        [o]

Comments/Problems:

Wow! g-i looks really great now! Very nice colors and the progressbar and the 
debian-banner also look very nice!

The partitioning felt a bit more buggy than in d-i (?)! Nothing which could 
not be resolved with going back and forth, but I didn't have these issues 
with d-i. One thing I had more than once, is that the main partition was not 
selected for being used. It was marked as free space and there was no 
partition selected at all. 

Also the partitioner happened to crash and then reload. I could continue then, 
but it also happened quite frequently. But d-i mostly keeps the selections, 
nice at least :-/ I think this could be related to 96 mb only (89 being used, 
5 free, at a random look after a crash) - I will test again (in a week or so) 
with more memory an re-report about this. 

I think the installation manual should state that it's recommended to have 128 
MB RAM or more on powerpc to use g-i. (clone, retitle recommended to have 128 
MB RAM or more on powerpc to use g-i)

I know the task-menu is a difficult topic but I just wondered if a task "ssh 
server" wouldn't be really useful. I never install (and would install) the 
mail, web & print-server tasks (as I prefer to do that with more 
control/finetuning anyway) but I would very very often select the 
"ssh-server" task...

I also ran report-hw and can give you the full results if interested.

Overall, despite the problems I am very impressed by g-i! Cheers to $you_know_ 
who_you_are :-)


regards,
	Holger

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