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Bug#380105: Show current hour in hardware clock question



On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 09:01:39AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > There has been such kind of suggestion last weeks but it has been
> > > ruled out. I guess that the rationale is mostly avoiding features that
> > > are only available in some D-I flavours.
> > 
> > Ruled out ? Oh well. ... Which explains the rather harsh reply of this
> > question only being 'noise'.
> 
> Hey, Sven. Aren't you the one who very often insists on difficulties
> faces by non-English speakers ? :-)

I was refering to the rather harsh original reply from Geert.

> In the abve paragraph, what I intended to say is:
> 
> "Cette suggestion a déjà été fait dans les dernières semaines mais
> elle a pour l'instant été écartée car nou spréférons en général éviter
> les fonctionnalités disponibles seulement dans certaines versions de
> l'installateur".

Yeah, but it has been my experience that the d-i leadership has some rather
dogmatic approach to this kind of things, and ones something has been decided
by the powers that be, even mentioning it is putting oneself as risk of
becoming the target of a hate campaign, as i was over the kernel .udeb issue
(altough i am also partly at fault, but only partly).

> So, I "translated" "écartée" (which is, in French, a quite non rude
> word) by "ruled out"....which is indeed the *only* English expression
> that comes to my mind o roughly express the same idea. It is very
> possible that "rule out" is stronger than my real intent (anyway, I'm
> not the one who "ruled this out").

Indeed, i had no comment on what you said, but it shows clearly the futility
of trying to propose or discuss ideas about it, since doing so will attire me
the ire of frans and co, which i wanted to avoid in the first place. Too late
now.

> So, please, don't put in my mouth the words you often seem to see in
> other people's mouth.
> 
> What has been "ruled out" is a feature with a clock showing up in the
> corner of the G-I screen (indeed something similar to the extra games
> you discussed abut in January).

Indeed. I do believe it is a small-minded ruling lacknig vision and temerity.

I am bitter about this whole issue, and this may reflect and color my attitude
over this, but since it has been ruled out, i will not insist further, because
i know what it is going to cost me once frans is back.

> > > So, if a method to set the clock is offerred, it has to work for all
> > > interfaces.
> > 
> > Well, the .udeb could be common to everything, and the clock button could only
> > be a shortcut to it.
> 
> That would be an interesting feature, yes.

Indeed, but as you said, it has been ruled out, so anything coming from me
will be seen as further defiance of the d-i team authority, let's not push
this further, others may feel to develop these ideas more.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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