----- Forwarded message from Brian Morris <cymraegish@gmail.com> ----- From: Brian Morris <cymraegish@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:15:28 -0700 To: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> Subject: Re: Bug#381258: Acknowledgement (install report etchbeta) On 8/4/06, Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> wrote: >Brian Morris wrote: >> hi, i wish to add another block of comment. >> >> concerning laptop task and power management utilities. >> >> the installer identified my machine correctly as a laptop >> and i allowed it to install this task. >> >> it installed two utilities i have never seen on my mac >> laptops and it left out the two i am used to see. >> >> the two unfamiliar, unexpected were hibernate and apm-emulate. > >There is no package called apm-emulate in the archive. what is is actually, is a kernel extension in powerpc modules called apm-emu. what i saw as a running process i can only assume was a fork from apmd. i am no system analyst... > >Many people like to put their laptops to sleep, so hibernate is a fairly >useful choice. > of course, pmud uses snooze. >> the two missing were pmud and pbbuttonsd (there are more besides >> too i think that support these). > >We need to get hw-detect 1.40 into testing; then pbbuttonsd will be >installed again. > >I'd be happy to add pmud if it's safe to install on all powerpc laptop >hardware. i don't know about that, is there a question it might be unsafe ? it was AFAIK standard in sarge, for this particular mac laptop at least, it has worked fine. but i never got the older version to work on sarge on my (even) older mac laptop, even tho others had told they used it there with woody. i was indeed concerned that the apm-emu/hibernate might be a new port or for newer macs and it might be unsafe. however if it is safe and functions on that older laptop where pmud did not then i would be happy to use it. > >> another reason why i would have to not trust this installer. > >I'm going to assume this is hyperbole and ignore it. You installed using >a daily developmental build of an installer; if you're not prepared for >problems you're not using the correct version of the software. > if this is a prerelease, according to my understanding. it should be fairly close to that, or not ?? I guess i am needing to accept a little more the fact that the powerpc is a port and thus lags the schedule of the intel-pc and also it is not easy for developers dealing with the many varieties even withing apples. as far as i understood this one week only was testing period. the older etch images for this installation method were supposed to be unuseable. i hope i am not too critical, but i hope also you are getting there a more complete picture of the status, of the etch installer for powerpc. i know it has to work on a lot of different machines including newer laptops and servers and other firmwares. maybe if i did not complain nobody would know. it would really help a lot if the installer developers would pass along a few real release notes ... one major reason my choice of debian because they support so wide architectures. if i check for instance yellow dog which is linux-ppc they are rock stable yet it would seem waiting to copy what etch releases as far as they are not up-to-date. every thing has its cost, though. another reason is the net-install method that worked wonderfully for me in sarge. I would really like to see it working as well in etch... brian >-- >see shy jo > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- see shy jo
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