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Bug#360430: Bugs............what else?



Hello Frans,
    At this point I have considered your suggestions carefully and concur in the concept that the current Debian installer just won't  handle complex raid systems (many comments all over the net).  Unfortunately, I am not yet able to persue the beta installer due to my own ignorance.  I will be working on that vigorously but it will take time.  As soon as I acquire the knowledge I will persue your original suggestions.
    I must express my appreciation for your time, courtesy and friendly coaching in the art and methods of net correspondence, I will benefit from these considerably.  Further consumption of your time is not warrented untill I get my act together.  I'm now off to the docs & books...........

Thank you,
Bob T


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On Tuesday 04 April 2006 00:00, Zoro wrote:
  
    If this "bug report" attempt is inappropriate to persue with you,
please so indicate and I will persue the issue via the forum route.
    

No, this is fine. Though if your questions are more "how do I..." I'd 
suggest asking on the debian-user list instead. The number of people on 
this list and their time is limited.

  
Yes! This is for box #1(Box #2 has 2 drives and will use raid0). 
This refers to a set of 4 (2)IDE drives, all on primary controllers
exclusively intended to contain Linux md0 thru mdx, approx, 5GB
(7.5GB) partitions one per dtive per Linux distro  created by the
concerned distro as raid partitions which are intended to produce 1
raid5 (raid0) with an effective 15GB mdx to mount as "/" for the
distro that created and uses them.
    

OK. However, a RAID setup is not the easiest way to set up a Debian 
system. You might want to set up a system with "plain" partitions first 
just to get a better feel of what happens and expand from there.

  
Note that the installer does not show existing RAID configuration by
default. I think you get them to be shown by choosing the RAID option
at the top of the main partitioning menu (after choosing manual
partitioning) and then returning to the main menu, but the RAID
support in the installer is mostly geared towards setting up RAID
from scratch.
      
       I must disagree on this.  The installer does show the
"partitions"  on the drives, just not the "raid configuration" for
them.
    

Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to say.

  
These partitions must be shown to allow for the addition of the 
next partition on each drive (to be created by the current install in
progress).  On box #1 the installer properly shows the partitions on 3
of the 4 drives and shows the 4th drive as empty, which is not the
    

The fourth drive being empty (and the presence of SATA drives) was why I 
suggested using a newer installer. However, if you don't mind scratching 
the current contents or not using it, there is no real need to do that.

  
case.  Further, if I proceed to the "create raid"  process it will not
let me "mark" the 3 new partitions even to create a three partition
raid.  (THIS IS THE CRUX OF WHAT WAS PERCEIVED BY ME AS A "BUG".)
    

I'm not completely sure what is wrong here. The installer may be confused 
by the fact that the partitions are already set up for RAID.
Is it an option for you to "blank" the harddisks and create the partitions 
to use for RAID from scratch? You can "blank" a disk by selecting the 
line for the disk and create an empty partition table for it.

You can then create the partitions you need (don't forget to create a 
separate ext3 /boot partition) and mark the ones to be used for RAID 
using the "Use as:" option.

After you have set up the partitions like this, select the "Configure 
software RAID" option in the main menu and set up the RAID itself. You 
should now be able to select the partitions that have been marked to be 
used for RAID in the previous step.

After you've done that, select the "Configure the Logical Volume Manager" 
option (creating partitions directly on the RAID device is not supported, 
it's better to use the RAID device as a physical volume for LVM and 
create the filesystems you need as logical volumes within that).
After setting up the logical volumes (for /, /home and whatever), select 
the mount points for those and create the file systems.

Also reserve space for a swap filesystem. It's up to you whether to create 
it inside the RAID or outside.

  
The "all caps" was not intended to be rude, just the best I can do for
high lighting,
    

There _are_ (read: underlined) other ways to *emphasize* (read: bold) text 
in a mail :-)

  
       On box #2, the existing partitions are shown and I am allowed to
create the new ones for the current install but when I proceed to the
"create raid" process it will not allow me to "mark" the appropriate
partitions therefore I'm stopped in my tracks.
    

Probably the same as above.

  
Have read the cited Doc's and still learning.  No mention there
of  "Linux26" that I can find.
    

No, the linux26 option is documented in the boot help screens mostly. Try 
pressing F3 when the splash screen is shown (after loading the CD, but 
before booting the installer).

  
If I am successful in downloading the beta installer, how would I
use it in conjunction with the two DVDs of sarge? ( I'm on a rather
miserable 56K dial up connection)
    

In that case I suggest you stick with the Sarge CDs. As long as you're 
aware that the SATA controller will probably not be supported.

Cheers and good luck,
FJP
  

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