Bug#338639: Debian INSTALL REPORT
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 05:15:34PM +0000, ptb wrote:
> Package: installation-reports
>
> INSTALL REPORT
>
> Debian-installer-version: <Fill in date and from where you
> got the image> 2005 Oct (12) from Steve McIntyre - binary
> -z386 2xDVD
>
> uname -a: <The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt>
> Linux debian3-1r0a 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> Date: <Date and time of the install> 2005 Nov. 9 Wednesday
>
> Method: How did you install? From DVD using the two DVDs.
> After a couple of earlier part-failures, this time I skipped
> the last steps and went straight to 'finish the base
> install', after which I rebooted with nothing added.
>
> What did you boot off? If network install, from where?
> Proxied? Just from the hard drive.
>
> Machine: <Description of machine (eg, IBM Thinkpad R32)>
> SOYO 6BA+ IV-2BA5
>
> Processor: PENTIUM III 100 X 4.5 = 450MHz Id. 0673H
>
> Memory: 256MHz SDRAM (passed Memtest86 v.1.60)
>
> Root Device: <IDE? SCSI? Name of device?> Maxtor 41.1Gb
> GE040L0 IDE HDD
>
> Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition
> table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
>
> 2005_November_11_Friday___14:45:31z
>
> # sfdisk -l
> Disk /dev/hda: 79656 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track
> Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0
>
> Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 0+ 1 2- 16033+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hda2 * 2 181 180 1445850 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 182 235 54 433755 82 Linux swap / Solaris
> /dev/hda4 236 4997 4762 38250765 5 Extended
> /dev/hda5 236+ 355 120- 963868+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hda6 356+ 1255 900- 7229218+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda7 1256+ 1375 120- 963868+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda8 1376+ 1675 300- 2409718+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda9 1676+ 2575 900- 7229218+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda10 2576+ 2935 360- 2891668+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda11 2936+ 3295 360- 2891668+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda12 3296+ 4195 900- 7229218+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda13 4196+ 4997 802- 6442033+ 83 Linux
>
> Disk /dev/hdc: 8940 cylinders, 15 heads, 63 sectors/track
> Units = cylinders of 483840 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0
>
> Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System
> /dev/hdc1 * 0+ 1999 2000- 944968+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdc2 2000 5999 4000 1890000 83 Linux
> /dev/hdc3 6000 8939 2940 1389150 83 Linux
> /dev/hdc4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty
>
> df -a
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2 1445772 102764 1343008 8% /
> proc 0 0 0 - /proc
> sysfs 0 0 0 - /sys
> devpts 0 0 0 - /dev/pts
> tmpfs 128480 0 128480 0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda9 7228956 32840 7196116 1% /0A
> /dev/hda10 2891552 32840 2858712 2% /0B
> /dev/hda11 2891552 32840 2858712 2% /0C
> /dev/hda5 963616 0 963616 0% /DOSTOOLS
> /dev/hda12 7228956 32840 7196116 1% /RESERVED
> /dev/hda8 2409584 32848 2376736 2% /home
> /dev/hda6 7228956 713128 6515828 10% /usr
> /dev/hda7 963804 152044 811760 16% /var
> usbfs 0 0 0 - /proc/bus/usb
>
> fstab
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda2 / reiserfs notail 0 1
> /dev/hda9 /0A reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda10 /0B reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda11 /0C reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda5 /DOSTOOLS vfat defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda12 /RESERVED reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda8 /home reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda6 /usr reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda7 /var reiserfs defaults 0 2
> /dev/hda3 none swap sw 0 0
> /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
> /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
>
> #/etc/mtab
> /dev/hda2 / reiserfs rw,notail 0 0
> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda9 /0A reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda10 /0B reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda11 /0C reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda5 /DOSTOOLS vfat rw 0 0
> /dev/hda12 /RESERVED reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda8 /home reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda6 /usr reiserfs rw 0 0
> /dev/hda7 /var reiserfs rw 0 0
> usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
>
>
> Output of lspci : -
>
> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
> 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
> 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
> 0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
> 0000:00:0e.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:0e.1 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:11.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB] (rev 9a)
> 0000:00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
>
> and of lspci -n : -
>
> 0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
> 0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
> 0000:00:07.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
> 0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
> 0000:00:0e.0 0180: 1103:0004 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:0e.1 0180: 1103:0004 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:11.0 0300: 1002:4755 (rev 9a)
> 0000:00:12.0 0401: 1274:5880 (rev 02)
>
>
> Base System Installation Checklist:
> [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
>
> Initial boot worked: [O] expert26 debian-installer/framebuffer=false vga=ext
> Configure network HW: [O]
> Config network: [E] my hardware deficient
> Detect CD: [O]
> Load installer modules: [O]
> Detect hard drives: [O]
> Partition hard drives: [ ] ALREADY DONE WITH WOODY rawrite + ****1440.bin floppies
> Create file systems: [O]
> Mount partitions: [O]
> Install base system: [O]
> Install boot loader: [E] SEE BELOW
> Reboot: [O]
>
> Comments/Problems:
>
> <Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
> and ideas you had during the initial install.>
>
> I'm used to using the rawrite + ****1440.bin floppies to
> start the install, then using some CDs and dselect, ending
> with dos & potato & woody all installed and bootable by
> LILO on the one drive.
>
> With sarge : -
>
> First problem is that lilo won't install at all, anywhere,
> so I have to use grub which will only install in the mbr,
> where I don't want it because it takes over and can only be
> shifted with <fdisk /mbr> and/or the Linux equivalent. Also
> I have to learn how to get vga=ext results and other
> adjustments with no LILO to configure.
I believe in expert mode you can install grub or lilo other places. For
a typical user the MBR is the right place, and grub is the right choice.
For a typical user you have grub offering you Sarge (with your choice of
kernel) or sarge and windows. Anyone with more OSs installed than that
is not a typical user and should probably be using expert mode, or at
least know how to setup the boot loader manually to do what they want.
I can't even imagine having that many different Debian installs, given
having one install with the others in chroot's is much more practical if
you want to be able to do developments and testing for each one. Using
chroots means not having to reboot to change systems.
> Second problem, even worse, is that dselect (after - as I
> think I remember - being installed using apt-get install,
> which I'm lucky enough to know about) shows only the
> packages which have been installed so far, whereas in
> potato/woody you see all packages and work through the list
> before installing those desired. I'm glad to say that I
> have been inspired enough (using deselect) to remove
> aptitude and tasksel and after that dselect worked properly
> as it always has done for me, so that aspect of sarge now
> works.
I keep waiting for the day I can dpkg --purge dselect without breaking
dependancies. Good ridence. apt-get and aptitude are much nicer to
work with. dselect has an insane user interface and is terrible on low
ram systems with the number of packages in debian today. Making
aptitude the default is much nicer to users in general.
> Overall, obviously great work has been done for sarge but in
> the install just at the moment, in my limited experience of
> 3-1r0a so far, a normal default option such as grub or
> aptitude has somehow taken up position as a muscle-bound
> Ballman clone, attempting to crush the tried and tested
> alternative options by simply not allowing them to emerge
> and work as designed. Imagine something like this happening
> in the BIOS? It wouldn't last long, would it? So why
> should it be there in the install?
Progress is a good thing. Grub is much better than lilo, is less
likely to break, has more features, and requires less stupid tweaks to
work in general. And it is written in C rather than assembly so you can
actually add features to it when needed.
> >From the .img files I've got the four floppies
> boot/root/cd-drive/net-driv. However the old pair resc &
> root worked well enough, and although I'm not sure yet
> about the four I don't think they come near.
A flopyp install normally takes a boot disk, a root disk and a driver
disk (cd if you are going to install from cd media, or net if you are
going to do a net install). You never need both driver disks.
> Install logs and other status info is available in /var/log/debian-installer/.
> Once you have filled out this report, mail it to submit@bugs.debian.org.
Len Sorensen
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