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uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.26-1-386 #2 Sat May 1 16:31:24 EST 2004
i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004/07/17
Method: installed from netinst cd. Boot from cd. Second phase download
using pppoe.
Machine: Athlon 2.4+ , 512 MBram, Samsung 40 GB HD 7200rpm
SP4002H /dev/hda, QUANTUM FIREBALL540A /dev/hdd, nVidia GeForce4
MX440SE 64MBram, Samsung SyncMaster 753DFX, wheel mouse Ppti
MG-303PS00A, LG HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B , Asus 7S333, VIA
Technologies VT6105 [Rhine-III], winmodem PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56
(chipset PCT789), on-board sound C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
Processor: AMD Athlon 2.4+
Memory: 512 MB ram
Root Device: ide Samsung 40 GB HD 7200rpm SP4002H /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table:
Sist. Arq. 1K-blocos Usad Dispon. Uso% Montado em
/dev/hda1 3172696 1615796 1556900 51% /
tmpfs 258196 0 258196 0% /dev/shm
/dev/fd0 1412 439 901 33% /media/floppy0
Output of lspci:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 745 Host
(rev 01)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual
PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
0000:00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)
0000:00:02.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0
Controller (rev 07)
0000:00:02.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0
Controller (rev 07)
0000:00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513
[IDE] (rev d0)
0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc
CM8738 (rev 10)
0000:00:0b.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02)
0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105
[Rhine-III] (rev 86)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17
[GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [ ]
Detect CD: [E]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
There were some doubts when detecting cdrw/dvd driver. The debian
installer told some missing modules.
Frans Pop instructed to ignore this. But these messages are
frightening for someone installing at first time. If they were not
real errors, they should not be detected this way. The cdrw/dvd is
being read.
The other confusing issue is about pppoe.
Thanks to Frans Pop instructions, I installed the netinst cd first
phase to the end. Then, after reboot, went to a second console and
called pppoeconf.
It should be instructed at the config network screens at least (if not
possible to include whole pppoeconf thing at this point).
The installer correctly formatted reiserfs the previous fat32
partition. I did not repartitioned, as another linux distro is at same
hard disk.
Also, included the grub entries at menu.lst but as unknown linux
distro. (Conectiva Linux is the most known distro in Brasil).
The installer did not included in the fstab the old 1,2 MB floppy
drive. Nor I have ideas about the winmodem. The www.kurumin.org linux
knoppix derivative may help. It installs the winmodem drivers. Maybe I
can discover how to install on debian. It is listed on lspci.
Then, the second phase after reboot.
After configuring the pppoeconf at a second console (new users will
not realize this without instructions), downloaded the packages for
desktop.
Why I need a MTA in a desktop machine?
What is for libpango? What about the strange defoma name?
Few instructions for newbies....
The second phase was a pain at xfree86 configuration.
The installer did not detected the correct pci entry. It listed video
PCI:0:1:0 that did not work. The right is PCI:1:0:0
It is a newbie blocker...
The installer did not listed the "abnt2" keyboard. Asked for PC104 and
layout "br". confusing for newbies. I still have some keys not working
(it is an abnt2 keyboard), but at least are typing this text.
The mouse was a real problem, blocking XFree for working.
It is a very generic and cheap 3 button wheel mouse.
At the installer menu, it was not listed "ps/2", but "/dev/psaux"
instead, without explanations for newbies.
The explanations for other entries were missing too (if i can
remember).
The installer wrote /dev/input/mice at XF86Config-4 that did not
work.
Also, was missing
Option "CorePointer" "true"
I found in kurumin.org that in order to avoid mouse blocking the X
session, the following should be included at section server flags:
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection
The nvidia board was a problem.
At first try the nv driver did not work.
I tried the vesa driver.
I know that nvidia real 3d drivers are proprietary and should be
downloaded from nvidia site and not included in debian.
But it should be told to the newbie at the screen.
There were many missing fonts delaying the x session start.
The Samsung Syncmaster 753DFX was not detected. And it sold millions
in Brasil.
The installer wrongly listed frequencies as
Horizontal 30-92
Vertical 50-85
The real 753DFX specs are
Horizontal 30-70
Vertical 50-160
Allowed resolutions were not correct also.
so, after editing the mouse problem, the x session started out of
sync...
Showstoper for newbies again.
Well, after editing /etc/X11/XF86config-4 (Is it the correct file to
edit?) the frequencies and resolutions using nano editor, the x
session started only after a reboot (??)
Finally, kdm appeared in its power and glory.
After typing for login kde splash started.
"Configuring devices...."
....
....
...
Splash screen disappeared after some looong minutes.
I had to reboot.
(this problem is very frequent. 2 out of 5.)
The kde 3.2.3 in debian is dismaing experience. Some windows take 3 to
5 minutes to open!!!
I am using conectiva linux 10 with kde 3.2.3 at another partition and
it is ligthning fast.
so, we have problems in debian+kde...
I am not sure where to post these debian kde issues. Please, send
guidance.
Also, there are many brazilian portuguese translation corrections and
debian installer log files that I will send in another messages.
Best regards.
Andre Felipe Machado
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On Monday 18 October 2004 15:50, andremachado@techforce.com.br wrote:
> Well, you may close this report.
As requested. Thank you for following up.
Cheers,
FJP
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