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Bug#274290: FWD: Re: Bug#274290: debian-installer: Manual partitioning does not give full control

----- Forwarded message from Asbjørn Sæbø <asbjs@stud.ntnu.no> -----

From: Asbjørn Sæbø <asbjs@stud.ntnu.no>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:42:03 +0200
To: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#274290: debian-installer: Manual partitioning does not give full control
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 05:34:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Asbjørn Sæbø wrote:
> > I expect to find something that gives me total control of the partitiong 
> > process, something along the lines of cfdisk.
> > Instead I find a partitioning program that does not give me the level of 
> > control and overview over the partitioning that cfdisk does.
> Can you give any examples of something you cannot do with the current
> partitioner?

They are mostly details.

* I miss the exact partition sizes that cfdisk gives me.  The new one says
  things like 1.9GB, whereas cfdisk says e.g. 5996.23MB.
* I like to be able to see the partition data for all partitions at once.
* I like cfdisk's ability tho show partitions either by their size, or by 
* I like to be able to specify partitions by their starting and ending 
* cylinders.

* And in addition: cfdisk is available (also) after installation.  The new 
  is not(?).  And it actually does happen once in a while that I do 
  partitioning after installation, e.g. when installing new disk drives,
  or when I discover that I have to adjust partition sizes, or have
  decided how to use free space set aside unpartitioned (for lated use)
  at the installation.

It seems to me that the new partitioner is oriented towards individual 
partitions (one at a time): You create them, decide how to use them (file
system type and the like) and where to mount them.  So it does more than
cfdisk in some ways.  
cfdisk, on the other hand, is more oriented towards the disk as a whole.
You have a disk, and you divide it into partitions.  And I like to have 
that way of doing things available.

Don't get me wrong.  For the most part, I like the new installer.  It has 
very many good sides, and I do not suggest that you chage it/throw it away.
I just would like to have cfdisk available in a pinch.  (It is probably
in a large degree due to old habits and the fact that I'm a control freak.)

> > Prposed solution: Include cfdisk as an alternative, at least reachable 
> > from one of the virtual consoles.
> It is.

Is it?  In that case, I have to apologize.
Actually, I did go looking for it, using the shell on the second virtual console,
but I did not find it at that stage of the installation.  But I may have made a 
mistake of some kind.

What I ended up with was doing a very basic install.  After that, cfdisk was 
installed, so I used that to repartition the drive, and did a new install.

If cfdisk is indeed available, I have no complaints, and you may close the bug.

Thanks for your response, and for your work on the installer!  I have been trying
it every now and then since around beta 3, and it has definitely been improving.
I really do like it, and I think it is a great step forward that will make 
installing Debian much less of a challenge than it has been.

With kind regards

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see shy jo

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