Christian Perrier wrote: > The daily builds section links to a dedicated page > (www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/builds) explaining the > differences between sid_d-i and sarge_d-i > > Strangely, this page mentions sid_d-i as the "daily builds" while the > main installer page link in "Daily builds" points to > http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ which has > *sarge_d-i* builds Maybe you have an old version of the builds page cached, or an out of date mirror -- the current version does not have this problem. > I suggest that > > -we keep only beta4 on the main d-i page as "official release". Put > here a link to the "builds" page. > -we remove the tc1 pointer from the main page > -we keep a "daily build" paragraph pointing to a new page called the > "builds" page > > This "builds" page should be basically the current > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/builds where we inject Vince > McIntyre proposal. > The most critical point, imho, is currently the lack of visibility of > sid_d-i and a too much visible sarge_d-i release... The page is trying to cater to three distinct types of users: 1. Wants to install sarge, just wants it to work. These users need a link to a well-working release, like beta4. 2. Wants to install sarge, can tolerate some problems, wants to help d-i, doesn't have a lot of time to decide what to use. These users should download either the sid_d-i or sarge_d-i, and it's better if we make the decision for them which they should download. The daily builds (or sometimes a pointer to a test candidate) are best for these users. 3. Wants to test a specific version of d-i for a specific purpose. These users need a detailed explaination of what versions are available so they can decide which to use. It's important that the links for user type #1 are near the top of the page, and are what someone will use if they don't read any descriptions at all, and just look for a download link. Type 1 users are in a hurry; we've all been there. Type 2 users need some kind of clear link they can follow to get to images, but it can be a bit less prominent. Type 3 can be expected to follow any non-obscure set of documentation. A problem with the current page is that type 1 users currently get tc1 as the first prominent download link. Luckily it works pretty well (as well as beta4), and whether we should direct them back to beta4 is, I think, an open question. But we should certianly only have one prominent set of links, not two. I have kept the daily links pointed at sarge_d-i because continuing testing of those images is important as we move packages into sarge, to make sure things keep working. We could use more sid_d-i testing, but I don't know a way to direct some type 2 users to test sid_d-i without directing all of them there. So type 3 users are currently picking up the slack on sid_d-i testing. Vince's proposal is probably a good way to explain some things to type 3 users; I know they've found the different image types somewhat confusing. I'd be happy with a patch to add any better explanations to the builds page, perhaps based on Vince's text. Currently the front page just describes some different types of images; maybe we should make the three types of users more explicit there. Something like: Installing sarge with the Debian-Installer If you just need an installation that works, we recommend you use beta4 of the installer. The following images are available for beta4: <links to beta4> If you'd like something newer to help us test a future release of the installer, or if beta4 does not support your hardware, try one of these images: <links to sarge_d-i (or tc2 later on)> For a complete description of available image types, see <link>this page</link>. -- see shy jo
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