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Bug#250285: Usability: 'Start PCMCIA Card services' question



On Friday 21 May 2004 23:46, Per Olofsson wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 22:58 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > 2. Starting PCMCIA on systems that don't support it (and even on systems
> > that do) may cause freezes and other unwanted effects.
>
> Really? I have never heard that before. If it's true, it's still
> possible to do detection of PCI-PCMCIA bridges.

If there is no harm, then why ask the question at all?

And what's all the fuzz about boot option hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false and 
excluding IRQ's and address ranges in /target/etc/pcmcia/config.opts all 
about? I've seen quite a few installation-reports on that.
I thought the question was added recently exactly to avoid these problems, but 
maybe I just don't know enough about it.

> > 3. Even a lot of laptops supporting PCMCIA don't really need it activated
> > during first stage installation (e.g. if they have an onboard/internal
> > network card).
>
> But some do.

Sure, and they will know they do and answer 'yes'.

> And if PCMCIA is detected during the installation, it is
> installed into the target system automatically, so it's useful even if
> you're not using it as installation media.

So, if I answer 'yes' on my desktop and I have _no_ PCMCIA support on my 
system, are pcmcia kernel modules and pcmcia-cs installed or are they not?
If they _are_ installed, that would be a very good reason for a default 'no'.

> In general I think things should Just Work, if possible. d-i detects
> most other hardware and does a lot of things without asking (when run
> with high priority) so I don't see why PCMCIA should be treated any
> differently.

In general I actually agree, but then again: why ask the question at all, even 
at medium or low priority?

P.S.
I always run the installer at DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium because I find I can't 
properly configure my apt sources list otherwise.



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