Re: debian-installer on oldworld -- how-to ?
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 08:42:30AM +0100, Jeremie Koenig wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:10:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 05:43:39PM +0100, Simon Vallet wrote:
> > > I'm currently trying to try debian-installer on an OldWorld -- as I got
> > > it, the CD won't be bootable, and no floppy images are available.
>
> > Jeremie, could you make a quick resume of the status of it, and how far
> > you did go ?
>
> I did build floppy images for ppc, but those were missing bootloader
> installers and a clean build system (I mean, without a miBoot binary in
> the repository.)
Ok, did you commit your changes back to the CVS ? Or can you maybe tell
me what is needed for building the -floppy target, and i can commit it ?
> I've been working on a miBoot package, and quickly hacked a minimal
> Macintosh resource editor, since miBoot's configuration is embedded as
> resources of the "System" file. Those two packages should be ready in a
> few days. I'll need sponsorship for upload.
Any chance it can happen before next WE ? We would also have to fast
track it in the NEW queue or something.
> > Also, it would be nice to finalize this stuff in the next week, so that
> > the debian-installer beta3 would support oldworld
>
> It should be possible.
Cool.
> > Well, the way to go with oldworld is to use miboot with the
> > -powerpc-small kernel, and a floppy target for building the initrd.
> > Jeremie was working on it, but i don't think it got commited, not sure
> > though. I think the problematic thing is to get the initrd down to
> > floppy size.
>
> I succeeded getting an initrd fit on one floppy. However, the kernel
> itself nearly fills the first disk and we can't have an initrd there
> unlike i386 floppies.
Ok.
> > it would be great if someone with oldworld pmac knowledge and interest
> > assist me in getting the floppy target working too and commited, so
> > the daily built powerpc images include them.
>
> The floppy target won't be the hard thing, I've already got it working.
> I'll send a patch here as soon as miBoot is in the archive.
Ok.
> > > Is there an oldworld-specific debian-installer howto somewhere,
> > > or am I missing something obvious (do I need specific packages
> > > installed (for an installer ???), or won't it work with quik anyway,
> > > or...)
> >
> > It won't work with quik, it will be either .coff booting from the serial
> > console, miboot and the floppy target, or bootx fro mac os <10.
>
> I think it could work with quik, if you have it installed already and
> the kernel/initrd are on the hard disk. Maybe we can get quik installing
> on floppies, which would solve the miBoot dependency problem (miBoot
> will be in contrib.) But that's for later.
Arg, naturally, i confunded quik and yaboot. Naturally, using quik, you
could as well use the more tested -powerpc images.
> Is there anyone around who could check and sponsor my packages when
> they're ready ? (hopefully tomorrow or wednesday)
I will do them, naturally. I also meet you, and have signed your gpg
key, which would make this easier.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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