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Bug#220124: marked as done (kbd-chooser: do not make keyboard selection dependent on language)

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From: Kai Hendry <hendry@cs.helsinki.fi>
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Subject: WINGS
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uname -a: Linux localhost 2.4.22-1-386 #9 Sat Oct 4 14:30:39 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: Mon Nov 10 10:42:33 EET 2003
Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
      install, from where?  Proxied?

100meg ISO. Finished with proxied network install for tasksel et al.

Machine: WINGS-tietokone
Processor: P4 2.66Ghz
Memory: 900MB
Root Device: IDE

major minor  #blocks  name     rio rmerge rsect ruse wio wmerge wsect wuse running use aveq

   3     0   78184008 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 7605 6299 111142 32180 16143 109437 1005208 3290340 -2 1005360 1304360
   3     1   76348881 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 7599 6290 111100 32090 16143 109437 1005208 3290340 0 64890 3322450
   3     2          1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 1 0 2 20 0 0 0 0 0 20 20
   3     5    1831378 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 2 0 16 20 0 0 0 0 0 20 20
   3    64   78184008 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc 2 6 16 10 0 0 0 0 -2 1009080 40931522

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
/dev/hda1	/	ext2	defaults,errors=remount-ro	0 1
proc	/proc	proc	defaults	0 0
/dev/hda5	none	swap	sw	0 0
/dev/fd0	/floppy	auto	rw,user,noauto	0 0
/dev/hdd	/cdrom	auto	ro,user,noauto	0 0

/dev/hda1 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)

Output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #1) (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #2) (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB (Hub #3) (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB USB2 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801BA/CA/DB/EB PCI Bridge (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DB LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP (rev 01)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller (rev 82)

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O] It did DHCP
Config network:         [ ] I didn't configure the network (or is this DHCP?)
Detect CD:              [O] Must have
Load installer modules: [O] Must have
Detect hard drives:     [O] Must have
Partition hard drives:  [O] I quit the partition menu for it to automagically do it
Create file systems:    [O] Must have
Mount partitions:       [O] Must have(this is getting boring)
Install base system:    [O] Guess it did. Is there a way to verify?
Install boot loader:    [O] 
Reboot:                 [O] Popped out wrong CD tray
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it


I hope to see this debian installer behave similar to the WINDOWS
installer, where it timeouts when the CD is in the tray. User
intervention is required to start the installer, by a press of a button.
This saves out on the stages whereby the CD has to be manually removed
and put back in again.

I don't understand that addressing standard of target0/target1. Usability problem?

When you are in the manual partition menu, and finish writing a
partition, you should move on to next menu. I was a little confused why
(it seemed to be) that the installer was asking me to partition my hard
drive again.

Also in that manual partition menu from where you cfdisk. (Should have
written the title down). It did not prompt me to automatically partition
the hard drive.  Why not?

Then when I managed to select automagic partitioning, it creates ext2!
Why is ext2 the default? Surely ext3?

The install lilo menu also has a usability problem. It gives a text
field of the /dev/dadada/target0/disc/etc. Am I really supposed to know
how to edit this field? Ideally do not get this menu at all. Or at least
give the user some sort of menu of possible choices. Not a text field.

Terribly annoying stage of ejecting the CD, ejects the wrong CD tray.
This machine has a CD Writer and a CD Reader. I installed from the CD
reader, as it is faster.

After the reboot, is the where the Debian Installer ENDS? 

As I have further comments. There is a strange message on the console
after reboot.  Something to do with /dev2/root2 or something.

The password setup menu is terrible. First about shadow passwords and
NIS. What is NIS? People who use NIS can re-configure this option. Have
them on by default and do not ask the user!

Next the root password. One page for telling the user about the root
password, next page is a little window with text input. Can't these two
pages be on ONE page? It solves other usability problems too.

Regarding the keyboard. I want the language to be british english, but
my (Finnish) keyboard setup correctly. Entering proxy details with a US
keyb was frustrating.

Apt Security dialog is also pointless. It people do not want security
updates when upgrading, they can re-configure. By default: on, and do
not bother the user for the decision.

When it comes to choosing package manager. How come no aptitude?

I chose tasksel, and I can't help but wonder why I am asked in 3 menus
at least about pcmcia-cs. I do not have a laptop! The installer should
know this ?!

I put in the proxy details in the installer (apt?). When I finished the
install I used lynx to go to a webpage. However it didn't work. Why
isn't it getting the proxy details?

I only chose X from tasksel. It didn't work. I think it didn't do the
mouse section probably, but again this isn't the Debian Installer's
fault is it? Where should I file bugs related to that?

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This bug was fixed long ago.

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