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Re: new installer



On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:42:22PM -0400, dan wrote:
> No simon is right on this one.  Thie issue is that devfs has no support for
> old world macs.  We all know devfs is crap too.  My solution would be to
> remove devfs from the entire installer and try another system maybe using
> MAKEDEV.

Out of curiosity, what is so special about OldWorld Macs that they don't
work with devfs?

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Langasek [mailto:vorlon@netexpress.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 12:55 PM
> To: simon raven
> Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: new installer
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:31:27PM +0000, simon raven wrote:
> > LET IT BE KNOWN:
> 
> > that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new 
> > installer.
> 
> > i think this sucks.
> 
> > 1) there are plenty of still functional oldworld machines out there
> > 2) i think it shows an utter lack of consideration for recycling, 
> > re-use of older hardware and the environment
> > 3) is totally irresponsible
> > 4) devfs is broken, crufty, and will be totally gone by 2.7 very 
> > likely, and using this will make oldworld installs impossible (at 
> > least from d-i; it'll still be possible to install from woody floppies 
> > and dist-upgrade).
> 
> > go ahead and ban my IP or SMTPd, i'm seriously thinking of moving to a 
> > *BSD now, and i'll make sure that anyone and everyone i know that uses 
> > oldworlds *DON'T* use debian sarge stable. and maybe even not debian, 
> > for making such IMO, dumb decisions.
> 
> The only person I know has *decided* that Debian won't support OldWorld PPC
> in sarge is you.  I'm sure that (as with all things around here), if there
> are people willing to spend the time to figure out how to make d-i work for
> OldWorld Macs, it'll be supported -- and if not, not.
> 
> Supporting OldWorld Macs certainly isn't high on *my* priority list, despite
> the fact that I have one sitting in my closet; they have always been a pain
> to make work with Linux, and no one here is *responsible* to implement
> features they won't use, sorry.
> 
> -- 
> Steve Langasek
> postmodern programmer

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